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sippyroverD90
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Robbie said:
Dear Robbie Sir,
Yes, your observation is correct. I can be as you put it a arrogant ass, especially when it comes to chatting about Land Rover and the heritage of the motor-car. I still to this day own my fathers 1957 Land-Rover 107 Station Wagon, that we purchased new when I was still a child, having it imported into the Northern Cape of South Africa where we lived and I spent many years of my youth growing up. I now have a collection of Land Rover's of different makes and models and all of them are one owner cars. Purchased new by my father and myself over the years. My D-90 Defender is my newest in my collection and my daily cheep driver. The only one that actually sees the sunlight and doesn't stay in a climate controlled garage covered. My post here was actually to poke the hive and give some of what was given back at those who were enjoying giving it so much. Some of you are just pathetic excuses for human beings. I really meant no disrespect, but wanted to strongly get my point across of what it feels like to be looked down upon, and shown vile prejudice against. It is well documented that my family fought for equal rights in South Africa for many years. Reading this forum and the stance some of you take toward other posters here like Todd reminds me of the grade school bullies who use to throw rocks at the black children and call them names when I was a kid. It turned my stomach then and still does today but hopefully some of you see what it is like to get a little taste of your own barrage of filthy, vile hate based responses.
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Right right ol chap.....we're all just pathetic excuses for human beings.
Sorry you had to witness such horrible things when you were a child....but at least you had a newly imported Land Rover to ride in while the children of Africa walked.
Amazing, absolutely amazing ..........
Sorry you had to witness such horrible things when you were a child....but at least you had a newly imported Land Rover to ride in while the children of Africa walked.
Amazing, absolutely amazing ..........
az_max said:I paid $500 for my 90 RRC, and $517 for my 87 RRC. (say, anyone in St Paul need an 87 RRC?). List price on the 90 was $35k new.
Nice job Max! We still have all the books and stickers on ours...hard to believe it was so $$$....and the back hatch probably rusted away in the first few years!
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sippyroverD90
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I was a child RoverLady, I had no control over my economic well being at that time, but I knew I was lucky. It was purely luck I was born into what some Americans like to call a well to do family. I never threw rocks at black children and always couldn't understand why others did. To me it was just plain wrong and still is. If you are one of the cohorts on this forum that like to gang up with others here and throw rocks. Then I see you no different then I saw my school mates who like throwing rocks at the black children. It is by essence all the same I'm better than you mentality that you all seem to share. I am actually a pretty simple bloke. I enjoy a little afternoon tea and a read. I don't walk around like I am better than anyone because of financial well being. No amount of many in the world could save our daughter on nine-eleven. So, in my own eye's money is purely a convenience of life in material aspects. Which are nice, but just a small part in the grand scheme of things.
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BeachRover
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Steve, if that is your real name, I think what you have attempted to pull off here is one hell of an "acting" job. I don't believe half of what you have posted. I don't believe that you have a multitude of vehicles at your disposal that you own. You may indeed be able to access your father's our someone else's but I doubt your validity. To your depreciation statement, you and I are approximately the same age and I am unaware of many cars that do not depreciate drastically other than very collectable exotic cars. I have previously and presently owned Mercedes and BMW's and they both lose value at an alarming rate. The only vehicle that I have owned that appreciated was a 1966 Corvette Stingray but it took 20 years for it to do so. I will end by saying once again that you do have my most sincere condolences for your loss as I would wish your event on no one. Please know that while you and I may disagree about many things, as a fellow parent you have my deepest sympathies and your daughter is my hero.
Steve, if you think I am one of the ones who likes to gang up on people on this Forum....than you had better watch out. I usually avoid the confrontational threads that are started discussing politics, and various and asundry opinions.
I just don't like your tone.
I just don't like your tone.
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sippyroverD90
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Now if you can imagine being on a forum of a whole member base that shared my view and talked the way I was talking about the people who own Discoveries and you are the only Discovery owner there, than I am sure you could imagine what it feels to be Todd and others who fall victim to the ban of evil doers than bully others on this forum and what it looks like to any outsider interested in this Land Rover Source and starts reading. I'm sure they are soon off to another board or resource unless they view themselves as a trouble maker and want to get in on the fun. Like a mob of kids picking on the fat kid in the school yard.
I don't think that Todd has been attacked for any hidden reason.....he has always responded and I believe he has a history with many people on this forum which is the reason for their dislike.
I have no problems with Todd. I've talked with him on Myspace and I will send my best wishes and prayers to him and his family as they wait for news and healing.
Even in acting to make your point, I believe that you are truly elitist and condascending. It's going to take a lot more posts from you to prove me wrong.
I have no problems with Todd. I've talked with him on Myspace and I will send my best wishes and prayers to him and his family as they wait for news and healing.
Even in acting to make your point, I believe that you are truly elitist and condascending. It's going to take a lot more posts from you to prove me wrong.
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Roverlady said:
Roverlady I have nothing more to prove by posting on this forum. Everything I stated and all of my views have rang true about this web forum and many who post here. You think I am an elitist, but you surround yourself here with a bunch who want to portay themselves the same way. I don't actually know Todd's history on this forum and I didn't really post here to fight his battle. BeachRover, what would you like me to do? Invite you over to my house? That is not going to happen. You are correct on any and all automobile deprecation, but sometimes that only holds true at times depending on age, miles and over all history of a vehicle. BeachRover, thank you for the gentlemanly words about my daughter Amanda. She will always be my hero too and my little Angel.
Roverlady said:
I am with Roverlady. Steve, you said you were looking at this web from the side line, and then jump in and start bashing about this D-Web, and then say Grow up, then writing about your COLLECTION OF ROVERs. Are just tring to show off to us how much money you have? I think You need to Grow up.
I dont like the tone of your threads too.
Mr. Steven Rothchild III,
If you hate us so much, why bother coming on here?
The only people that ever get ganged up on are people like you (see posts relating to Chris Hyde for example).. who sit here and start generalizing about the Discoweb members and insulting us as a group with unfound reasoning.
Todd may get some jabbing occassionally, as do many other people, including long-time members... you just have learn not to be so sensitive, which he is definitely learning.
Oh, and as for your collection of dozens of series vehicles sitting in a climate controlled garage (if it's true) --what a fuckin' waste.
If you hate us so much, why bother coming on here?
The only people that ever get ganged up on are people like you (see posts relating to Chris Hyde for example).. who sit here and start generalizing about the Discoweb members and insulting us as a group with unfound reasoning.
Todd may get some jabbing occassionally, as do many other people, including long-time members... you just have learn not to be so sensitive, which he is definitely learning.
Oh, and as for your collection of dozens of series vehicles sitting in a climate controlled garage (if it's true) --what a fuckin' waste.
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sippyroverD90
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Perhaps Mr. RMuller you are correct sir. I just mostly felt bad for Todd and the way he kept trying to do and say anything to try to appease the people here, that were cleary not going to say anything kind to or about him. I don't personally know Todd, but through talking to him in private message he seems to be a genuinely kind hearted fellow. Wouldn't you agree? One last point Beachrover, you might want to get your dear gal pal Roverlady to fill you in about the essentials of Newport it seems she has a vast knowledge of the area and families who live here. OK, I am off for the day, hope to catch you all again soon. Have a splended evening all.
Todd is a good dude, i enjoy reading his extra long posts.. and some of the grief he gets is deserved (see the spamming posts above).. but he stands up for himself without going off the hook (e.g. "I think this is the problem and root cause of what to me seems to be a bunch of trailer trash Rover Owners"). It's comments like that one that you made, that make people on this forum rebut and finally ban a person.
Don't get your panties in a bunch.. Your facts about the price of Discovery's are wrong, your knowledge of the cost of Land Rovers in general seems flawed, and you're overall perspective on the type of person that owns a disco is absolutely incorrect.
PS. Do you even belong to d-90.com or landroverforums.net? I looked up your username, didnt see it, then since you love signing your full name, did a search on that, and didnt see it.
Don't get your panties in a bunch.. Your facts about the price of Discovery's are wrong, your knowledge of the cost of Land Rovers in general seems flawed, and you're overall perspective on the type of person that owns a disco is absolutely incorrect.
PS. Do you even belong to d-90.com or landroverforums.net? I looked up your username, didnt see it, then since you love signing your full name, did a search on that, and didnt see it.
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Oh lord...now I'm someone's GAL PAL?! hahahahahahahaha
You are a jerk just trying to stir the pot. I don't have a VAST knowledge of your area but I can bet that I know a lot of important people there that you don't. NEVER assume that people who are YOUNG have no clue about money or family status. You don't know me...and I don't know you. But you put yourself out here to be heard, interpreted and JUDGED.
You are a jerk just trying to stir the pot. I don't have a VAST knowledge of your area but I can bet that I know a lot of important people there that you don't. NEVER assume that people who are YOUNG have no clue about money or family status. You don't know me...and I don't know you. But you put yourself out here to be heard, interpreted and JUDGED.
ptschram
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sippyroverD90 said:
WHAT? Put the pipe down and step away from the keyboard!
If I wanted a vehicle that was cold inside when it was cold outside, I'd have a 90.
If I wanted a vehicle that was hot inside when it was hot outside, I'd own a 90.
If I wanted a vehicle that was wet inside when it was wet outside, I'd own a 90.
My hearing is bad enough from many years of competitive shooting and non-competitive hunting that I can't handle driving a 90 if I ever expect to hear my grandkids speak.
With regard to the expense of these vehicle, I have less than $20K in all eight of my Rovers and if I buy number nine this evening, it won't put me over that mark. Other than my Series trucks (one of which is stored outside!), all of my coil sprung trucks are more comfortable than any Defender I've ever ridden/driven in and yes, I've driven many, and I probably drive more Rovers of different types on a daily basis than the vast majority of others here (I support my family working on Rovers).
While I'm sometimes critical of people here and comments made, I still have the greatest of affection for this site and many of the people here as I learned much of my beginning Rover knowledge here (even from Perrone!). Go ahead and bash it/us, we'll still be here after you've taken your toys and gone home.
As for your comments concerning South Africa, where's Gary Grey when you need him to set you straight. He was born there and I suspect has much more insight as to the state of the country than you ever could.
PT
I know SlappyMcRover here was just trolling for a fight (and misusing the word 'epitome' in the process ,) but this Defender promotion/Discovery degrading thread brings to light an issue that I just don't get...So Stand by for Belligerant Discoweb Logic...
There is a beat D-90 near my office which is for sale for 26 grand.
It is 10 years old.
80,000 miles.
It is rusty around the bulkhead and hinges.
It is slathered with vital fluids on the underside.
The seats and top are tattered.
The paint is oxidized.
The right rear panel is damaged.
The sill steps and brush bar are rusted thru.
One headlight is filled with orange water.
I asked the owner to see it.
He met me at the car.
With a key.
It did not start.
It is 10 years old.
80,000 miles
26 grand.
It is Rare.
It is "cool"
Everybody Wants One....
It is a D-90.
wooo
There are 500,000 of these things ready to enter the US in just a few years.
They will not cost TWENTY-SIX thousand dollars when they get here....
Keep it, and I'll keep my DII and continue my 109 shopping, thanks.
Conclusion: If you bought a D-90 new and kept it...then congratulations, you made a great choice...although when you bought the thing, you had no idea that the model would be discontinued and your truck would hold its value so well. Defenders are cool trucks to be sure. Still, all over the world, Defenders are available for chump-change much the same as any 10 y/o LR. Had LR fitted a Disco airbag to that D-90 around the corner...I'd offer the guy 4,500 bucks.
If you bought a used 10 year old truck with 80,000 miles for 26 grand....you are a moron.
,) but this Defender promotion/Discovery degrading thread brings to light an issue that I just don't get...So Stand by for Belligerant Discoweb Logic... There is a beat D-90 near my office which is for sale for 26 grand.
It is 10 years old.
80,000 miles.
It is rusty around the bulkhead and hinges.
It is slathered with vital fluids on the underside.
The seats and top are tattered.
The paint is oxidized.
The right rear panel is damaged.
The sill steps and brush bar are rusted thru.
One headlight is filled with orange water.
I asked the owner to see it.
He met me at the car.
With a key.
It did not start.
It is 10 years old.
80,000 miles
26 grand.
It is Rare.
It is "cool"
Everybody Wants One....
It is a D-90.
wooo
There are 500,000 of these things ready to enter the US in just a few years.
They will not cost TWENTY-SIX thousand dollars when they get here....
Keep it, and I'll keep my DII and continue my 109 shopping, thanks.
Conclusion: If you bought a D-90 new and kept it...then congratulations, you made a great choice...although when you bought the thing, you had no idea that the model would be discontinued and your truck would hold its value so well. Defenders are cool trucks to be sure. Still, all over the world, Defenders are available for chump-change much the same as any 10 y/o LR. Had LR fitted a Disco airbag to that D-90 around the corner...I'd offer the guy 4,500 bucks.
If you bought a used 10 year old truck with 80,000 miles for 26 grand....you are a moron.
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What the F%$K with this "sir sir sir" thing?????
Trying to be polite, but giving insult to Disco owners???
Trying to be polite, but giving insult to Disco owners???