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DiscoJen said:
I don't have a dog in this hunt but this comment above made me laugh out loud. Thanks.
DiscoJen said:
Perhaps he is wearing this on his head...
https://www.cafepress.com/toddhollyphoto.19962849
dwainholly <dwainholly@yahoo.com> to lr-discovery
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Just trying to get the word out about a new Land Rover Enthusiast
site. They have a pretty cool message board check it out.
MyRover.net
http://www.myrover.net
Hey Dwain, you sent the above out through the Yahoo Groups on November 2. Any idea who runs that board?
Let me guess, you're Todd's other brother
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Just trying to get the word out about a new Land Rover Enthusiast
site. They have a pretty cool message board check it out.
MyRover.net
http://www.myrover.net
Hey Dwain, you sent the above out through the Yahoo Groups on November 2. Any idea who runs that board?
Let me guess, you're Todd's other brother
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sippyroverD90
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Hello all Discoweb members. I am new to this forum and recently registered as a member here because of some positive words and chat exchanged between Todd and myself on his website via private message. I had sent him a private message asking why he had such high regards for this website when so many in the Respectable Land Rover Community have such low expectations and disdain for this forum and the mob mentality of members who rain terror on this message board. He explained to me for anyone with a Land Rover Discovery that there truly is a wealth of knowledge provided free from this website and a few members who own and share a wealth of their own personal knowledge about their trucks. His words were something to the effect of what a great webforum this was if you didn't let the bad eggs ruin the whole experience for you. I have been monitoring this from the side lines the last few days and watched Todd literally jump through hoops to be nice to what from my own opinion seems like a bunch of spoiled high school bullies and brats with nothing better to do than insult another Land Rover Owner and someone who has taken it upon himself to create a great resource for anyone who shares the love and ownership of owning a Land Rover Motor Vehicle. You guys are either to young or to dim to understand what the true meaning of Land Rover is. It should be looked at as a brotherhood and it seems none of you seem to grasp this concept of what it is to share in owning and loving the same make of truck. Todd, is going through a very tough time right now and it is time for all of you to bury your snide hatred for a brother Land Rover owner and come to him with support, love and encouragement.
http://www.myrover.net/forums/viewthread.php?tid=115
or you can now turn your pathetic drivel on me. If this ends of being the case I ask the board administrator to please delete my account from this vile debunked board of Land Rover misfits and I will be sure to spread the word and report to every respectable Land Rover Source I visit like D-90 Source - LandRovernet.com - of how instead of rallying the troops to the aid of a brother Land Rover Owner in need at the time he needed it most, you all turned your backs and continued playing your teenager, juvenile high school games.
On a side note. We do not act like this on D-90 Source and other model Land Rover sites. In my conclusion it seems to be the vast majority of Land Rover Discovery owners here with this incredible appetite for bashing brother Rover owners. If this is the case then I truly hope the Land Rover Discovery becomes a thing of the past and the sooner the better because it really is one of the least desirable of the fleet and seems anyone can get their clammy hands on one and I think this is the problem and root cause of what to me seems to be a bunch of trailer trash Rover Owners.
In closing I say DiscoWeb members. (GROW UP)
Best Regards
Steven Rothchild III
http://www.myrover.net/forums/viewthread.php?tid=115
or you can now turn your pathetic drivel on me. If this ends of being the case I ask the board administrator to please delete my account from this vile debunked board of Land Rover misfits and I will be sure to spread the word and report to every respectable Land Rover Source I visit like D-90 Source - LandRovernet.com - of how instead of rallying the troops to the aid of a brother Land Rover Owner in need at the time he needed it most, you all turned your backs and continued playing your teenager, juvenile high school games.
On a side note. We do not act like this on D-90 Source and other model Land Rover sites. In my conclusion it seems to be the vast majority of Land Rover Discovery owners here with this incredible appetite for bashing brother Rover owners. If this is the case then I truly hope the Land Rover Discovery becomes a thing of the past and the sooner the better because it really is one of the least desirable of the fleet and seems anyone can get their clammy hands on one and I think this is the problem and root cause of what to me seems to be a bunch of trailer trash Rover Owners.
In closing I say DiscoWeb members. (GROW UP)
Best Regards
Steven Rothchild III
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I never really noticed a difference between the various message boards...except for POR maybe, but even the LR forum there is pretty much standard issue LR forum.
Pretty much what we have here is "my board is better than your board!"
Pretty much what we have here is "my board is better than your board!"
I don't think its fair to say that DWeb is bunch of rover owners ganging up and bashing a bunch of other rover owners. I can count on one hand the number of people who have been given some third degree burns on this board in the year and a half I have been following it. And it was usually for a decent reason.
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sippyroverD90
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Is this what you think Utahdog2003? Or this is just your observation. LandRovernet.com has twice as many members as your forum here. D-90 Source doesn't have the members, but we all know a D-90 is a more expensive and desired Land Rover than a Discovery. I think the epitome of your entire statement reeks in pure stupidity and carves right into my very point. A Land Rover Source is just that. I visit many and use all. Just like I don't go around saying My D-90 Land Rover is better than your Land Rover Discovery, because I know they are all Land Rovers and I have a mutual admiration and respect for all of them. Although I would never own a Land Rover Discovery because personally they don't appeal to me, but I am not going to bash your truck or you for owning or driving it.
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sippyroverD90 said:
I have stayed out of this thread because as we say in the south "I don't have a dog in this fight" but now Mr. Steven Rothchild III has pulled me in. Sir, I agree with many of the statements contained in your post. I did view the thread link that you posted and as the father of 2 young daughters, my thoughts go out to this family and I will certainly pray for Todd's niece. Also, my condolences to you and your wife on your tragic loss.
My issue with you sir is your smug statement regarding the Discovery vehicle. I know a great many owners of this vehicle on this board and in my local area and this vehicle was the vehicle of choice, not default. I, as well as many other Discovery owners, could purchase ANY vehicle manufactured by Land Rover or virtually any other european manufacturer but chose the Discovery for specific reasons. In my humble opinion, it is actually attitudes such as your own that ruins the heritage of the product line. The original intent of the Land Rover was a vehicle built to service the working farms, not a crowd of individuals that felt superior to the masses. You sir have defeated your own intended purpose by participating in the "act" that you so vehemently condemned.
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sippyroverD90
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Todd, I am sure you will read this at some point and I say I rest my case. You can continue to promo this forum if you like. I posted just to prove my point to you my friend and my point has clearly been made. I hope you junk that Discovery you own and stop feeding with the bottom feeders. Get a Series or Defender, 110, or 90 and get yourself a real Land Rover and move up with the elite class of the vehicle and leave Discoweb to their own devices. They seem to be a happy bunch of kids and are not worth your presence here in my opinion. I think most that own a D-90 or 110 are mostly over the age of 30 and at a whole new maturity level in ownership and message board interaction.
And please sir, I beg of you do not try to bring these members to your site. Why ruin a good thing. They are more than content here to bash and insult each other, so be smart and leave them to their own devices. This is where they belong and hope most of them stay. I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.
And please sir, I beg of you do not try to bring these members to your site. Why ruin a good thing. They are more than content here to bash and insult each other, so be smart and leave them to their own devices. This is where they belong and hope most of them stay. I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.
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BeachRover said:
BeachRover, I apologize if I offended you about the ownership of your truck and I sir do agree the Discovery is a GREAT 4x4. My entire problem sir is not with the truck itself, but the retail value and resale value of the truck. That sir is what is ruining the heritage of the product line. I have owned many different Land Rover models over the years. My father drove nothing but Land Rovers Trucks when I was a child and I have grown up in them. My problem dear sir with Discovery is it seems now any Tom, Dick or Harry can obtain one. Sometimes being of a direct English decent it is this meer fact that sometimes seems to be ruining the pedigree, or, breed or heritage of the vehicle in my eyes. When every American 16yr old can afford to go out and buy one and than hit a message board like this one claiming a representation of the truck in which they just acquired for a measly $10K. That sir is what is ruining a LONG standardizing heritage of the truck. That is no one else's fault but the Brits and Land Rover though. I will not argue that point, it is disappointing, but fact of the matter. It is the English's fault that they go down in value over time, instead of up. If I had it my way NO Land Rover would cost less than $25k no matter what year or model.
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I know that when I went to the LR dealership back in 98 to buy a D-90 I left with a Disco.. Why do you ask? Certainly didn't have anything to do with price.. I bought a Disco because it had more room then the 90 and it's more comfortable to take a long trip in then a soft top 90 ( which is what I was there to get ).. I could have bought a 4.6 HSE range rover but, I planned on wheeling my purchase and upgrades were easier to get for the Disco plus the Disco had less electrics and crap to break down on me in the middle of nowhere..
One thing that I have noticed in life so far is that the size of one's bank account has nothing to do with how they act towards others.. I have meet rich to pour and there are assholes in every tax bracket and every level of education as well..
Say what you want but, making a correlation between having money and not having money or buying a 90 vs Disco vs RR or any make of vehicle and being an asshole is just plain ignorant..
One thing that I have noticed in life so far is that the size of one's bank account has nothing to do with how they act towards others.. I have meet rich to pour and there are assholes in every tax bracket and every level of education as well..
Say what you want but, making a correlation between having money and not having money or buying a 90 vs Disco vs RR or any make of vehicle and being an asshole is just plain ignorant..
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sippyroverD90 said:Todd, I am sure you will read this at some point and I say I rest my case. You can continue to promo this forum if you like. I posted just to prove my point to you my friend and my point has clearly been made. I hope you junk that Discovery you own and stop feeding with the bottom feeders. Get a Series or Defender, 110, or 90 and get yourself a real Land Rover and move up with the elite class of the vehicle and leave Discoweb to their own devices. They seem to be a happy bunch of kids and are not worth your presence here in my opinion. I think most that own a D-90 or 110 are mostly over the age of 30 and at a whole new maturity level in ownership and message board interaction.
And please sir, I beg of you do not try to bring these members to your site. Why ruin a good thing. They are more than content here to bash and insult each other, so be smart and leave them to their own devices. This is where they belong and hope most of them stay. I hate to say I told you so, but I told you so.
Todd, if you do in fact read this please go and review all post that I have made on this board as well as my response to Mr. Rothchild. The quoted statements by Mr. Rothchild are indicative of his elitest attitude and I for one do not care for it. I have yet to see a response to his original post where anyone resorted to "name calling" such as he and that in and of itself is indicative of his character (or lack thereof). If Mr. Rothchild is so shallow that he will form an opinion of an idividual based on their choice of recreational vehicle then I truly feel sorry for him and for your new site should he choose to contiue posting there. I never attacked him personally and even offered my sympathies for his loss yet he was so fixated with extoling his superiority over the members of this forum he did not even acknowledge it. Upon viewing the thread on your site regarding the car accident I registered as a member and posted a message to you. My sentiments in that message are still intact yet my desire to be a member of your website are not. I do not know your personally but I do wish you all the best with your website and in your future.
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sippyroverD90
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Mr Eric N, My family, and my extended family has owned not one, not two, but some where over 30 or more Land Rovers of every make and model over the last 35-40yrs. You don't have to try your feeble attempt at educating me sir, on what the different value aspects are to the models. If you chose a Discovery over a D-90 then it is an economic fact you will loose lots of money on resale value. My father taught me smart business economics a long time ago, and I, being a some what intelligent business investor. Don't make a habit of buying lame horses dear sir. I am actually a very pleasant chap, but after viewing the shenanigans of this crowd of Land Rover Hulagoons for the past days. I have no intention of being gentlemanly or treading lightly with any of you. Good day
So, the discovery sucks because it is a poor investment. Land Rovers should be limited to the very wealthy. Seems to me, it is good for the "land rover heritage" as you say if rovers depreciate quickly. Or are you too poor to absorb the depreciation?
You sir, are an ass, and your comments make no sense. Class can not be bought.
You sir, are an ass, and your comments make no sense. Class can not be bought.
sippyroverD90 said:
Wasn't trying to "educate" you on anything.. Merely making a statement... I bought for fun not for resale.
goddamn you are an arrogant ass. only in the US is the defender more valuable than the discovery. why? because of pure supply and demand. hang onto those defenders of your's a couple more years and watch that value plummet as we hit the 25 year rule on defenders. i truly believe they will flood the market and your $25k defender will be somewhere around $10k and depreciating.
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Oh boy...I could have some fun with this fellow. I'll start here:
You are elitist to the point that it is absolutely unnecessary and disgusting.
You have made an incorrect and great sweeping assumption about a group of people from the limited number of postings you have read.
You absolutely DO believe that a D-90 is much more desirable (read: expensive) than a Discovery and you are WRONG. It is, to the best of my knowledge, a LESS expensive vehicle in every other country of the world, and there are many people on this forum that own multiple Land Rovers of every model and year....not just Discovery.
If you wanted to make your great disgust known, you would have posted this in another thread and been willing to accept the INTELLIGENT discussion that could have insued.....but instead you have posted "I am done with Disco Web...good day."
To base your opinions about the 'fleet' on the economic fact of depreciation is absurd.....My family has also owned many luxury vehicles, in addition to boats and other items, and it is a known fact that they ALL depreciate to a ridiculous amount. Our 1992 RRC was, at it's delivery to NY, a $55,000 vehicle and we purchased it for $4000. Seems that is a much greater depreciation than what is witnessed with the Discovery.
And once again, there is a tremendous difference between CLASS, STATUS and WEALTH. I'm very familiar with Newport.....I can only assume that you have a very different definition because of the people with whom you choose to surround yourself. Are you a member of Bailey's Beach? Do your friends drive D-90s because they think they are a rare commodity? Do you purchase your vehicles from Copley Motorcars because you honestly believe they represent the fair market value?!
There are many people who use DiscoWeb that are of a greater class than you....but you won't be here long enough to find that true. And most importantly, you will not enjoy getting to know these people because you have no sense of humor.
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