Tom Woods Driveshaft failure

MUSKYMAN

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jhmover said:
Well we shall see. I just ordered a Double Cardan for the rear of my D1....I keep busting the caps on the pinion end with the stock one (not even driving off road with the last one). I have a TW on the front, been on there over a year a no problems at all.


what are your driveshaft angles?

a DC is not a cure all and infact will fail just as fast if the angles are not correct.

the pinion should point at the transfercase for DC shaft.
 

jhmover

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Well I already ordered it, so regardless I have the DC. I will check out the angles this weekend and see what I have pointing where. Thanks for the info.
 

GregH

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Tom Wood said:
We complete the assembly of all our CV socket flanges with the installation of the centering ball. We had used a well known manufacturer of this ball kit for many years with very good success. It has been within the last six months or so that we began to notice an inordinate amount of premature failures for reasons that cannot be explained by any reason other than a defective product. I believe our long time supplier had done something with either materials or manufacturing processes that caused this. It did not take long before I sought and found another manufacturer which could supply the highest quality seat I need. It is unfortunate for me and those customers who received defective product, that this particular problem needed to manifest itself in the field. We are having very good success with the part as supplied from the new manufacturer.

Crap.

Any way of telling if you have one of the shafts with the older ball kit?

I purchased a TW front DC driveshaft from Will a few months ago. I upgraded to an LT230 from a BW TC and switched from a GBR shaft.

I won't have time to wheel much until later this year but will be on an extended wheeling trip early next year out of the country-It'd be a pain to have it fail.

I never had probs with my previous GBR DC driveshaft that I had for several years but I also believe in keeping it lubed and don't tempt fate with pinion angles.

FWIW for those who commented on it-I don't believe Bill makes his driveshafts. I could be wrong but I think at one time he farmed it out to Six States.
 

MUSKYMAN

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GregH said:
Crap.

Any way of telling if you have one of the shafts with the older ball kit?

I purchased a TW front DC driveshaft from Will a few months ago. I upgraded to an LT230 from a BW TC and switched from a GBR shaft.

I won't have time to wheel much until later this year but will be on an extended wheeling trip early next year out of the country-It'd be a pain to have it fail.

I never had probs with my previous GBR DC driveshaft that I had for several years but I also believe in keeping it lubed and don't tempt fate with pinion angles.

FWIW for those who commented on it-I don't believe Bill makes his driveshafts. I could be wrong but I think at one time he farmed it out to Six States.


Well hey you are not out there on the road with a failed drievshaft so make a phone call or two and sort it out. You are dealing with two of the best guys in the rover community with Tom Wood and Will Tillery. If you are in the very small group of shafts that were built with these parts I will bet that they work it out for you.
 
MUSKYMAN said:
Well hey you are not out there on the road with a failed drievshaft so make a phone call or two and sort it out. You are dealing with two of the best guys in the rover community with Tom Wood and Will Tillery. If you are in the very small group of shafts that were built with these parts I will bet that they work it out for you.

Eggsactly! They will know when it was made/shipped and if it falls in the date range of the suspect parts, they'll make it good.

Part of quality control is recognizing that some bad parts will get shipped. I got a batch of dodgy panhard rod bushings. so far, I have replaced all of them under warranty. It's a PITA but part of the business.

PT

ps-who's going to Utah???
 

emmodg

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Pulled my TW shaft yesterday. It was making a TON of noise and vibrating. The DC had a shit load of play in it. And back to TW it goes!
 

emmodg

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Mike_Rupp said:
Any angle measurements? It seems that one guy with a supposedly bad driveshaft had horrible driveline angles; I'm betting that he's not the only one.

No measurements - I did think about that... I have the RTE 3" springs w/RTE radius arms, blah, blah, blah...

The thing is you'd think the TW would last longer as far as banshee-like noise and concrete vibrator feel goes compared to the stock shaft that came out of it that had a tad bit of vibration and no noise.
 

Mike_Rupp

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Well, Tom did state that there were a few bad parts that made it out, so who knows?

When it gets back on there, take some accurate measurements to see how close to ideal the angles are.