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Kyle

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Cmon now , pimpin aint easy !! My 37 has the gold trigger and those stocks but its the "Featherlite" and I dont see that model offered any longer. Thats the closest thing to it that I can find on the Ithaca site. The inside doesnt need anything done. With the gun standing on end and a shell in the pipe you can depress the slide release and it will kick it out all by iteslf. Ohhhhhhhhh thats nice................ There just aint no fucking around with the 37...
 
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Kyle

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Oh and I forgot , yeah , the recivers are flat and the barrels gloss both of mine came that way.. The featherlite and the deer slayer..
 

JSQ

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I kinda like the parkerized 37s myself.

but a well worn simple blued field grade looks good too. The one with the rough engraving of a setter on the side in 16 bore.
 

Eric N.

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Jack you are correct in that I am only going to use this gun for shooting things with wings.. No deer or other game.. I'm going to get a new rifle for that.. But, I do want to use it for all birds. Quail to Turkey I want one gun... I'm poor now and can't afford to buy two or three guns to bird hunt. I wish that I would have decided to get back into hunting birds a few years ago when I had money pouring in but, I didn't.. I'm also going to be looking for a new hunting rifle for deer and other larger game. But, I'm looking to get the shotgun first. Keep in mind that I'm not going to be running out to buy one for a while so guys, please keep the ideas coming.. It's going to be a while till I actually buy one so there is plenty of time for debating what's good and what's bad. I'm even hoping that I will be able to borrow some of these or go out with people and get some real time hunting in with them to really put them to the test.. My stepdad knows a couple of people that have offered to let me use their bird guns ( I'm sure not their favorites though ) to also help me.. Kyle here was also nice enough to extend an invite.
 
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agro1

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I'm the "slob" hunting partner Jack refers to, and yes, I don't always pick up my trash - Jack does :D
I do agree with everything Jack says though, and will be buying a dedicated (lighter) upland gun soon - most likely the Beretta 686 silver onyx 20 ga 28". The Super 90 works fine, but does present some problems in the field. First and foremost it swings like shit, is heavy, and just has no place int he field. It's a combat gun, so next to the bed loaded with XXX buck is where it belongs. But hey, it still puts food on the table.
 

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Kyle

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Something is terribly wrong with that pic , I mean real bad wrong...... Looks like a city boy got a deal on a gun from a crack head and decided to go hunting with it :D Oh , and lets get back to the looks.... I am betting that pretty much anything that gets up in front of that barrel is thinnking its looking really bad...... However , my 37 has fired countless thousands of rounds and killed countless creatures , its been plugged up with mud (Crawling through fields when I was little and it was like a telephone pole) , its been dropped in the water , it has set in a duck blind in the rain and also many a goose pit in the mud and rain , I have rapped too many bird heads on the but of it to finish them off to count. Its been moved , banged , beaten and abused now for 28 years and it still works better then any other gun I have picked up and tried. Thats 28 years of consistent killing...... You just cant fuck with that.....
 
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Kyle

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And this is what that pimp butt stock looks like after all of that. If you look closely you can also see the effects of one bored Golden retriever that was left in the blind with the gun...
 

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Eric N.

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Lucky that wasn't my dog chewing on it or it'd be tooth picks in 5 minutes and I'd have a dead dog.. :D

Lot to be said about an old abused gun that just keeps working and working.. The way some things are made today maybe I should look at some used old ones too. I know my stepdad and my dad both have the same guns that they have had since they were younger.. Which is partly why they can't really offer up to much advice since they haven't had a need or urge to look at any of what's out there now.
 
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agro1

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Kyle said:
Something is terribly wrong with that pic , I mean real bad wrong...... Looks like a city boy got a deal on a gun from a crack head and decided to go hunting with it :D Oh , and lets get back to the looks....I am betting that pretty much anything that gets up in front of that barrel is thinnking its looking really bad......
Sure, now if I could just connect :) It's really amusing to hear Jack on the other hillside laughing his ass off after I empty that fucker and don't hit shit. :eek:


Kyle said:
Thats 28 years of consistent killing...... You just cant fuck with that.....

LOL - indeed, that, you cannot fuck with :D
 
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Kyle

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Yeah , but that is probably the only "Sport" that exisits that is just as much fun doing poorly as it is doing well... You get thinner over time but its still fun... :)
 
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agro1

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Ditto - Must be all that lean game Kyle's eatin' cause my chain smokin fat ass can barely make it up a draw chasing quail. By the time I get there I'm too out of breath to shoulder that heavy mo fo - I need to teach my dog to shoot :)
 

john

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Oh damn, Luke. That is just so wrong. In so many different ways.
 

andrewv

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John:

Why is mine a Montefeltro Super 90? I haven't thought about what model I have in about 10 years, so I'm curious. It's what it was in 1994, but I'm curious as to how it differs from what's out there currently. I don't want to shop? :eek:
 

john

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Here's the Montefeltro:

http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/images/montefeltro-gr2-12ga-large.jpg

And here's the Super 90:

http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/images/m1-wood-large.jpg

I believe the Montefeltro and Super 90 share the same buttstock, receiver, and internal parts. The Montefeltro has a stylized cut into the side of the receiver, but I believe the receivers are otherwise identical.

But take a look at the forends. The Montefeltro's forend is considerably longer.
Here you can see the various stock options that Benelli offers:

http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/accessories-stocks.tpl

Note that the Super 90 and Super Black Eagle have interchangeable stocks, while the Montefeltro's longer forend prevents full interchangeability with the Super 90 and Super Black Eagle.

Here are the extended magazines that Benelli offers:

http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/accessories.tpl

The Super 90 and Super Black Eagle accept the same magazines, because the magazine on both weapons is hollow all the way to the front, and both magazines can be extended very easily.

Here are some of the barrels that Benelli offers:

http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/accessories-barrels.tpl

Here we see non-interchangeability between the SBE and Super 90, because the SBE's barrel extension is longer and basically forms into an upper receiver. However, the magazine lug on the bottom of both the SBE and Super 90 barrels is identical. The magazine lug actually encircles the magazine tube on both weapons, permitting the fitment of extended magazines.

I contrast, note the magazine lug on the Montefeltro's barrel. It's small and doesn't encircle the magazine tube. It only encircles the threaded stud on the tip of the Montefeltro's magazine. The Montefeltro's magazine cannot be readily extended.

To me, the non-interchangeability of parts between the Montefeltro and the Super 90 puts the Montefeltro at a disadvantage. For example, I have three Super 90's. The first is the Field version with walnut stocks and a 24" barrel. The other two are Tactical models with 18" barrels and ghost-ring sights. One Tactical has a standard buttstock and the other has a pistol-grip buttstock. All three shotguns have the seven-shot magazine fitted and are loaded with Federal attenuated Buckshot loads in the magazine and on the shell lifter (empty chambers), and then hidden in different parts of the house. All of the parts among these three shotguns are interchangeable. I have a spares parts kit and that spare parts kit works on all three guns. All three guns operate in exactly the same manner and handle similarly. When I go to the clay target range and fire 500 rounds, I get a lot of practice with my Tactical models as well, because they are so similar to my Field. I always shoot "low gun" no matter what the rules permit, and get to practice 500 or more speed mounts every time I go and play at the clay target range. This practice really kicks over to the Tacticals, more than you might think. I like this set-up a lot, enough to like the Super 90 over the SBE for my own needs.

To me, the Super 90 is just an awesome shotgun. It could be improved though. I wish the barrel extension had the same design as that of the SBE so that sights could be interchanged with barrels. The older Benelli 121 also had this design. For some reason, Benelli went from that design to the Super 90's design, and then back to the older design with the SBE. The Super 90 also has that cheap shit BB gun safety. A tang safety similar to the ones fitted on the Mossbergs and the Browning BPS would be far superior. Other than that, the Super 90 is just awesome.
 

andrewv

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Thanks for the info! Mine is certainly the Montefeltro, although it is stamped Montefeltro Super 90. Sounds like you're geared up for what you need with the tacticals. I have barely enough time to hunt, much less go through 500 rounds at the range. Very jealous!
 

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UMTdisco

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BENELLI SPE Camo! BEST SHOTGUN YOULL EVER OWN> their slogin is "performance worth the price".. once you throw the gun to your shoulder you realize that your handling one of the more finer things in life.. its AWSOME!!!!
 

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Old Rover

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Eric,
I'm partial to Winchester 1200 /1400 series . I have 12 and 20 ga. in pump and auto each with full,mod, and imp cylinders. For a side by side an old Baker in 16 or 12 gets my vote.

I'm not sure if the 1200's where offered in 3' chamber . 2 3/4 was a handicap when using steel shot. Its been so long since I've hunted geese in MD I don't know if lead is allowed.





Evan