Road noise: Goodyear MT/Rs vs Interco trxus

[syoung]

I've been running Firestone Destinations on my FL and so far haven't thrown a lug or had balancing problems at all. They've impressed me so far.
When aired down, they grip rocks exceptionally well but in snow they are not quite as good as an AT. If you are looking for road and snow use as more important, stick with AT's. MT's are never as good at snow as AT's. I'm thinking the best tradeoff for all around use is the BFG TA/KO and that's what will go on my DII. My D1 runs Futuras and they are good in mud, but like all MT's they suck in snow.

 

[Eric N.]

siped????

plz explain

thanx

nick

Siping is when they cut small slits/groves into your tire lugs.. It helps by adding additional traction in wet, snow, and ice. Some tires come that way and some places can do it for you. Depends where you live. Here in Northern VA every where I called didn't even know what I was talking about except for a few that told me they didn't know any where around here either.

Does that help at all?

 

[discoverover]

Craig,
Take a look at the Kelly Safari MSR's. They are a commercial light truck tire for mud and snow, and are designed to work well on the highway. They are inbetween an all-terrain and a mud-terrain as far as mud/snow traction goes, but are very quiet on road. I think they look great too, kind of like a military tire. Worth a look for rain/snow/ice performance. Dave

 

[syoung]

Someone told me that nobody would sipe in northern VA for legal reasons... some liability problem. I asked TireRack when I got my Destinations and they said they won't and don't.

 

[craig]

I will take a look at the Safaris. I am definately looking for a tire that is inbetween an AT and an Mud tire. That is what drew me to the Goodyear MT/Rs. I do wheel hard, but occasionally. If I can't find a good in-between tire, I will probably either sipe some mud-terrain tires (I've done this before) or use chains on an AT.

--Craig

 

[MUSKYMAN]

I have siped every tire I have on every car and truck for a number of years and it is the best money you can spend.

the tire will wear much better and give you way way better traction in all situations. without any detriment to the tire at all.

right now I run 235/85/16 widetrack baja mt's on my D1 and they are much better then any of the 10 or so sets of BFG's I have owned . they dont have the total traction my mickey thompson baja claws do off-road but on the road at 50 psi they are very quiet and that is with almost 30k on them.

on my DII I have a brand new set of yokohamma geolander HTS's they are siped and they dont make a sound on the road. on wet snowy roads they have allready proven to be awsome...and because my DII is really just a shiney daily driver I am sure they will perform like every othe yoko tire I have owned.

MM

 

[kennith]

You know,

The relatively new BFG MT KM tread is impressive. I've found it to be a wonderful road tire. They are predictable, forgiving, and give just the right amount of road traction for a Disco II. Not sure how they perform on a Disco I, though.

In ice and snow, I have been pleasantly suprised. They are very workable in all conditions. Rocks are no problem, and the sidewalls are a good combination of giving and durablilty. Wet performance is great as well.

Overall, I have found them to be wonderful tires. You might check them out as well.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[craig]

You know,

The relatively new BFG MT KM tread is impressive. I've found it to be a wonderful road tire. They are predictable, forgiving, and give just the right amount of road traction for a Disco II. Not sure how they perform on a Disco I, though.

In ice and snow, I have been pleasantly suprised. They are very workable in all conditions. Rocks are no problem, and the sidewalls are a good combination of giving and durablilty. Wet performance is great as well.

Overall, I have found them to be wonderful tires. You might check them out as well.

Cheers,

Kennith

BFG MT KMs are what I am replacing, although I have not ruled out replacing them with the same only siped.

 

[Ho]

badyears usually run smaller than the BFGs. so if size matters to you, go with the BFG.

and noise? when new, they are all quiet. then with some use. all same shit. all noisy.

 

[PHARAOHDISCO]

I have been driving Good Year MTR's 265/75R16 on my D1 for the last 20000 km. Their road manners are excellent. Offroad I had never had any problems, whether in sand or on rocks. However, they wear very fast due to the soft compound. The tyre tread is worn by 20% on my MTR's over the distance of 20000 km (12500 miles), half of which was driven offroad.
I am going to change to BFG Mud Terrain T/A KM's for only one reason and that is because Good Year don't make MTR's in the size 255/85R16 and I want the larger tyre.

 

[Discojunky]

I have the Truxus on my 98' and love em'. Not too loud (you can't have it all) and have been great on rocks and mud. Maybe its the lockers and the gears doing all the work but I'm happy with em'.

 

[bri]

the tire will wear much better and give you way way better traction in all situations. without any detriment to the tire at all.
MM

They definitely lose chunks more easily on rocks, that is the only detriment that I have seen.

 

[ducati]

Someone here posted that Goodyear has come out with a new tread compound for the MT/Rs which supposedly offers better longevity. Their website doesn't seem to promote it, tho...

 

[Rover3]

I have the TrXus tires, and love them, I will admit though they wear fast, and are near to impossible to balance (atleast mine were). IMO They are really good in the deep snow and thick mud when aired down.

 

[romigenv]

Does anyone have any experience with Cooper tires? I am running two sets of Cooper Discoverer M+S on two SUVs. One is an '01 Disco II (tires have about 10k on them) and another set on a newer Trooper. Tires on the trooper have over 40K and are just about to be replaced. They are great tires and the price was great. Just not overly aggressive. I was thinking of taking the Coopers off the Disco and putting on my wife's trooper and getting a different set of coopers for my Disco. But, was curious if anyone has any experience with other Cooper tires besides the Discoverer M+S.

I have run a lot of AT's over the years on various vehicles. But never a more aggressive Cooper. Would appreciate some feadback.

j.

 

[GotRovr]

I'm replacing my GY MTR's with 50% tread left. Not comfortable with them on muddy steep trails. I'm leaning toward Cooper's new Discoverer STT's. Tread pattern very similar to BFG MT's with additional siping and a load range of E for 265/75R16

 

[Iron Boots]

Well here is my experience....

We run the 245/75 MTR's on my RRC and the 235/85 TrXus on Grants RRC.

The TrXus is MUCH quieter. I have driven both Rangies (same year, suspension etc) back to back and the MTR's howl. The TrXus are much quieter. There I answered your question...now I'll throw this out.

The TrXus Off road here in New England are every bit as good as the MTR's. both do well in the deep snow of Winter Romp (and various other events we have here in January/Feb). Both make the BFG AT look stupid everywhere except the Street (snow covered or not the BFG AT is a great road tire). Off road, in deep snow, here in new england you'd better have chains if you're running ANY AT's.

The TrXus suck in bigger sizes. Sure they grip well and wear OK, but in anything over a 33" size you're risking a balancing nightmare. MTR's have been much better. They Wear better too...but they cost more....in the 235 size the point is moot.

Aside from the balancing issues the TrXus does everything as well as the MTR here in New England conditions (on or off road) aside from wear.

In the last 2 years I've run the gamut of tires...
SSR's, MTR's, BFG AT's, BFG MT's, TSL Bias plys, TSL LTB's, TrXus...

If you're considering siping a KM, just go with the TrXus (siped from the factory and you rule out the Cletus factor...)

Good luck,

RJ

 

[FIVESPDDISCO]

i have the Teruxs and feel they are great in the mud and rocks. mine were imposible to balance. road noise is fine even at speed.

 

[WillTN]

I have the TrXus and love them. I know people that have MTR's and BFG MT's and in my experience the TrXus will outperform them MTR's and BFG Mt's everywhere. I don't know about balancing but the tread wear is about the same and road noise is about the same. Road performance wet or dry is about the same. But off road the TrXus will leave the BFG Mt's and MTR's in the dust (or stuck in the mud ). Also I think they are better in the rocks and mud then the MTR's or BFG MT's. I have ran all three of these tires in 265/75R16 on 16x7 rims on my truck and I think the TrXus are the best. They are also the cheapest.
FYI The sidewalls are just as thick as the MTR's and BFG MT's.

As for the BFG AT's I had them on my D90 when it was stock and they were ok in everything. Never got a flat on them. But they were what they were and that is just a good AT.

If you go with the TrXus I don't think you will ever go back to the BFG MT's. It is a great tire and I am on my second set and I still have nothing bad to say about them. Also they don't loose much performance when they wear like the MTR's and BFG MT's do.

TrXus all the way.

Will Peters

 

[PHARAOHDISCO]

I'm replacing my GY MTR's with 50% tread left. Not comfortable with them on muddy steep trails. I'm leaning toward Cooper's new Discoverer STT's. Tread pattern very similar to BFG MT's with additional siping and a load range of E for 265/75R16

Will: How many miles did your GY MTR's last for a 50% tread wear? Were they also 265/75R16?