MAF Test

lifestyler

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Apr 12, 2005
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Perth, Western Australia
Hi Everyone

I've been looking and couldn't find a good MAF test, so I though I'd post this.

1) First, you need an OBD2 reader that can read SAE codes (ie a base minimum of Intake Air Temperature (IAT), Air Flow Rate and RPM.

2) Connect your OBD2 reader and get:

a) The RPM your engine is ticking over at
b) The IAT
c) The Air Flow Rate

You can measure various RPM values if you want by logging data and looking at it via a spreadsheet.

3) Now use the Air Density calculator on the following page to calculate your air density at your elevation:

http://www.stealth316.com/2-air-fuel-flow.htm

4) Now calculate the mass air flow by using the Mass Air Flow calculator on the same page. I used a NC of 100% and a DR of 1.

5) Compare it to what you got from your OBD2 reader.

As an example, I used my OBD2 reader to get the following:

Air Flow rate: 19.9 g/sec
Air Temperature: 34 degrees Celcius
RPM: 2687

I then calculated my air density using a sea level air pressure of 14.7 psi and an air temperature of 34 degrees Celcius. The air density works out to be 32.556 g/CF.

I then calculated what the air flow SHOULD be using a default density ratio of 1 (non turbo) and a natural capacity of 100%, I get 6178.4 grams per minute.

Now, if I take the air flow rate of what MY MAF was telling me, I get:

MAF Flow Rate = 19.9 x 60 = 1194 g/minute.

From here, I can see that my MAF is telling the ECU that 1194g of air is flowing per minute when, in actual fact, 2687 g/minute is going through the engine.

As the MAF is telling the ECU that less air is going through, not as much fuel is injected and , as such, I am getting "too Lean" trouble codes at the O2 sensors (P071 - Bank 1 too lean and P0174 - Bank 2 too lean).

Hope this helps a few people :)

Here's where I purchased my OBD2 scanner for those who don't have one (do your own research though):

http://www.palmerperformance.com/products/pcmscan/index.php

For those who want to create a hybrid solution and save some money, look here:

http://www.discoweb.org/forums/showthread.php?t=18487

Instead of me paying $531 for a new MAF, I now only pay $170 if one dies.

Cheers

Erron
 

I HATE PONIES

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Did you have the incorrect gear ratio code along with the 2 lean bank codes?

I paid around $120.00 for a new one but I see you are in Lostralia so it may cost more there.
 

Mongo

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Or you could just measure the resistence across pins 1 and 3(I think, need to check this ) and see if it with spec. The value is in the manual
 

lifestyler

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Apr 12, 2005
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Perth, Western Australia
Hi all,

Well, I replaced the Pierburg MAF yesterday and it's all running perfectly again.

rovercanus: Yes, it's AU$531 for a MAF and the housing, thus the reason why I built a hybrid Bosch/Pierburg solution.

I HATE PONIES: No 4th gear ratio codes. Just the P0171 and P0174 codes.

Mongo: Yes, I thought of that but I also thought a "running test" would confirm it 100%. I've got a lot of electronics experience and it *may* be possible to have a "wayward" MAF that still shows the same resistance as a good MAF at zero airflow...though I'm not 100% sure with this as I don't have the circuit diagram.

Oh well, all fixed :)

Cheers

Erron
 

Mongo

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lifestyler said:
Hi all,

Well, I replaced the Pierburg MAF yesterday and it's all running perfectly again.

rovercanus: Yes, it's AU$531 for a MAF and the housing, thus the reason why I built a hybrid Bosch/Pierburg solution.

I HATE PONIES: No 4th gear ratio codes. Just the P0171 and P0174 codes.

Mongo: Yes, I thought of that but I also thought a "running test" would confirm it 100%. I've got a lot of electronics experience and it *may* be possible to have a "wayward" MAF that still shows the same resistance as a good MAF at zero airflow...though I'm not 100% sure with this as I don't have the circuit diagram.

Oh well, all fixed :)

Cheers

Erron

got a little electronics experience myself and if the element is bad, it's bad... running, sitting, moving
 

lifestyler

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Apr 12, 2005
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Perth, Western Australia
Mongo

Thanks for that as I wasn't 100% sure how the thermistor was wired into the circuit. From various circuits I have designed over the years, I have found that measuring resistance values at test points can be prone to error due to IC's and switching circuitry working with certain threshold values.

I have looked around for the resistance values for the MAF (it has two - one for the Internal Air Temperature and one for the the Air Flow), but I'll be buggered if I can find them. I have looked here and in the Workshop Manual.

There is a reference to two diagnostic tests in the Workshop manual, however none of them include a resistance value check.

Until I find an easier guaranteed test, I'll stick with testing the MAF as outlined in my original post.

Cheers

Erron