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D Chapman

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Discojunky said:
Taking unethical shots at deer to pump up your ego is nothing to brag about.

So, If I missed his/her head, most likley I would have caught him/her in the neck, which is still in the kill zone with a .50 calber bullett. Or, missed all together. A .50cal hollow point bullett does a ton of damage to a sholder, why screw it up? I was shooting for the meat, not the trophy. Shooting at a spike or a doe, really, is nothing exciting, so I made it interesting. Shooting at a deer with a .22 at 100 yards is unethical. Hell, I at least gave the deer a shot of getting away by aiming at a small target area.
 

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I still disagree. Your are assuming you will hit the neck if your shot is "not good" but that is only if the bullet drops low. If you hit left or right or a little high or a little low you could graze the top or side of the head or the jaw leaving the deer wounded and crippled or possibly dead but making recovery almost impossible due to the amount of distance it could travel before death. There is a great misconseption that you kill or miss a deer when you shoot at the head but if you think about it that is not the case. Even with a .50 hollow point. That has been proven over and over by people who have survived head shots with firearms. It 's ture that deer can't seek medical attention but thats the whole point it could take them hours or days to die from a non direct hit. I am very aware of ballistics and have hunted my whole life but no matter what the caliber of the rifle you are using this secnario is possible. And to risk it for personal satisfaction or bragging rights is again unethical. If hunting with your rifle isn't exciting enough for you don't risk wounding the game to test your skills just pick up a muzzle loader or a bow instead.
 

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DJ, I'm not sure how many .50 caliber rifles you have but I'll bet you your Disco that Dan is using a muzzleloader :D BTW I don't know him either.

You make some valid points but I would have been going for the head shot myself. I know my gun and my ability, exactly why I didn't shoot the one running by. I've seen heart and lung shots go much farther than a head shot. They tend to fall where the were standing.

When the guys I hunt with are using muzzloaders at the end of season we are looking for one thing, meat in the freezer.
 
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Discojunky said:
I still disagree. Your are assuming you will hit the neck if your shot is "not good" but that is only if the bullet drops low. If you hit left or right or a little high or a little low you could graze the top or side of the head or the jaw leaving the deer wounded and crippled or possibly dead but making recovery almost impossible due to the amount of distance it could travel before death..

Or, if I shoot for the heart/lung, and I am a little to the left/right, high/low.......You get the point....

And the .50cal I was refering to is a Muzzle loader, but you knew that because you have been hunting for years. :rolleyes: Maybe one day I can have a 50cal rifel mounted to the roof of the disco, and go spotlighting for some snipe.
 

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Get out a measuring tape the heart/lung area is much larger which decreases your chances of wounding the animal. And yes, I figured you were using a muzzle loader that's why I added the bow thing. Hell, it sounds like to me you ready to go to a sling shot or a spear! Kavic I thought since he was sooo good he might be shooting a .50 sniper rifle and he meant 650 yards they are pretty popular right now.
 

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Discojunky said:
... If hunting with your rifle isn't exciting enough for you don't risk wounding the game to test your skills just pick up a muzzle loader or a bow instead.

Actually you did mention muzzleloader too ;) Muzzloaders aren't as exciting as they used to be. They're pretty accurate, three inch groups at 100-150 yards is not uncommon.

Since you mentioned spear maybe we should get a big knife, a pack of dogs and go after some hogs... now that's what I think is unethical! I just heard about this recently and then saw Kyle mentioned it in another thread. What will they think of next.
 

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I totally agree! The dogs are doing all the work and after the pig is so tried it can't fight anymore you wade in a stab it with a knife. Not my cup of tea.
 
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Kavic said:
Since you mentioned spear maybe we should get a big knife, a pack of dogs and go after some hogs... now that's what I think is unethical! I just heard about this recently and then saw Kyle mentioned it in another thread. What will they think of next.

I don't think thats "unethical", thats crazy.

I can hear someone now..."Hey, you drunk ass, I bet you can't stab that wild bore over there while I sleep with your girlfriend".

"Oh yea, watch this".