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D Chapman
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Who's doing this trip? I was thinking of hitting Uwharrie, then jetting down to Texas for the SCARR event.
Never been to Uwharrie. Is it worth the trip?
Never been to Uwharrie. Is it worth the trip?
I will be there again. I can't believe you haven't been to Uwharrie. It has some easy trails and moderate trails, some things can be difficult if you choose the difficult line. The key with Uwharrie is the weather. If it is dry then it relatively easy. If it starts to rain then it becomes a whole different place.
I have only been there once last fall and it was very muddy. There seems to be something for everybody. I had a blast. stevenr has some good video on youtube of uwharrie with ONSLRS.
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I have been following the 4x4cross for a while now and I will definitely be there! I was considering competing but I think I am just going to watch instead.
As for you chapman, I can't believe you have never been there either. As Aaron said, it is super interesting if it rains but in the dry it is fairly easy. There is a few tough trails, some nice hillclimbs, and a rock garden that can be quite hard core if you pick the right lines.
As for you chapman, I can't believe you have never been there either. As Aaron said, it is super interesting if it rains but in the dry it is fairly easy. There is a few tough trails, some nice hillclimbs, and a rock garden that can be quite hard core if you pick the right lines.
Steven, are you going to run it or watch? I'm Interested, but I'm trying to save my pennies for the Nat. Rally at Moab this year.
In the stock class is that red Cherokee that was with the CNC club at URE that had his front bumper cover tied on the roof.
In the stock class is that red Cherokee that was with the CNC club at URE that had his front bumper cover tied on the roof.
I have been several times and it's usually a good time. The showers and bathrooms make the wife happy and it gets a good crowd.
I find the Uwharrie Safari relaxing. There are a lot of great people who show up and thats what makes this event for me. Its a lot of fun.
Trails are as easy or as difficult as you want to make them. Trails are fairly easy when dry. When wet, IMO, all trucks with street and AT tires should be parked.
Trails are as easy or as difficult as you want to make them. Trails are fairly easy when dry. When wet, IMO, all trucks with street and AT tires should be parked.
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Dan Ratcliffe
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I really do enjoy Uwharrie, and the CROC guys do a good job with the Safari. The trails are great, and the weather has a real impact on drivabilty.
I will disagree about the street and AT tired vehicles being parked though. I have spent the last ten years driving those trails and driving with people on those trails when their are wet, dry, and covered with ice, and here is what I think is different about driving the wet trails with street or AT tires, pace. It is an issue of how quickly you can travel one of the trails when it is wet with those types of tires, and the trails that you choose to drive. On some of the trails stock tires will only get you there if you have very high, I once watched Mark Barber (94 Camel Trophy) drive a stock 97 up a wet Dutch John, driving skills. I certainly couldn't have done it.
This last URE, the trails were soaked and miserable having received 3' of rain and didn't dry out until mid afternoon, later on the north and eastern slopes, but I led a group of about 10 vehicles of which about 1/2 of the drivers had stock street tires on their vehicles, and they did a great job. I, or any body with any skill and tire with more traction, could have driven the trails in a third the time, but that isn't the point. It is more difficult, to be sure. It took a lot of individual coaching, and the were quite a few occasions when an attempt or 6 was required to continue, and it required patience from the other drivers, but it was great fun. I didn't drive that trip, and literally ran all of Slab Pile, and Wolfs Den both ways, but the folks that did drive their vehicles with the tires they had really felt like they accomplished something. I certainly thought they did.
I would like to add that mistakes can be a little costly though as the conditions can lead you in to real trouble so you need to check your risk tolerance, because regardless of tire choice, it is very easy to become 4300 pound toboggan.
Hopefully my schedule will let me get to this year's Safari!
I will disagree about the street and AT tired vehicles being parked though. I have spent the last ten years driving those trails and driving with people on those trails when their are wet, dry, and covered with ice, and here is what I think is different about driving the wet trails with street or AT tires, pace. It is an issue of how quickly you can travel one of the trails when it is wet with those types of tires, and the trails that you choose to drive. On some of the trails stock tires will only get you there if you have very high, I once watched Mark Barber (94 Camel Trophy) drive a stock 97 up a wet Dutch John, driving skills. I certainly couldn't have done it.
This last URE, the trails were soaked and miserable having received 3' of rain and didn't dry out until mid afternoon, later on the north and eastern slopes, but I led a group of about 10 vehicles of which about 1/2 of the drivers had stock street tires on their vehicles, and they did a great job. I, or any body with any skill and tire with more traction, could have driven the trails in a third the time, but that isn't the point. It is more difficult, to be sure. It took a lot of individual coaching, and the were quite a few occasions when an attempt or 6 was required to continue, and it required patience from the other drivers, but it was great fun. I didn't drive that trip, and literally ran all of Slab Pile, and Wolfs Den both ways, but the folks that did drive their vehicles with the tires they had really felt like they accomplished something. I certainly thought they did.
I would like to add that mistakes can be a little costly though as the conditions can lead you in to real trouble so you need to check your risk tolerance, because regardless of tire choice, it is very easy to become 4300 pound toboggan.
Hopefully my schedule will let me get to this year's Safari!
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Dan,
I remember the Uwharrie Safari of 03'. It was BAD soaked and a lot of people got in a little over their heads. Hence my comment.
A little rain, eh, no big deal. But if its been raining for three straight days then Uwharrie becomes quite the mire.
I remember the Uwharrie Safari of 03'. It was BAD soaked and a lot of people got in a little over their heads. Hence my comment.
A little rain, eh, no big deal. But if its been raining for three straight days then Uwharrie becomes quite the mire.
I was one of the guys with the street tires that Dan coached through the snotty mud, up hills, and over slabs of rock...I sure felt like I accomplished something when we were done and learned a lot. I might have slowed the group down a bit, but it just goes to show what a LR trip can be like with the right people (ONSLRS) and the right attitudes. My wife and I still talk about the trip all the time.
I think that for you Dan C. it would be worth it, obviously on the difficult trails. I would agree with you all regarding the weather too. If it would have been dry...Dan wouldn't have had to run next to my rover the whole time...
I think that for you Dan C. it would be worth it, obviously on the difficult trails. I would agree with you all regarding the weather too. If it would have been dry...Dan wouldn't have had to run next to my rover the whole time...
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Yep!!! It can get really crazy, you are absolutely right. I would like to add, that I don't think that Max was expressing a particular attitude, even though we might disagree on when stocks and TAs should be on a trail.
And I was not challenging an "Attitude" just an opinion. Just because I disagree, doesn't make Max wrong. Alright, group hug!! :bigok:
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Oppss...sorry I didn't mean it to sound that way. I was trying to comment how nice it is to be in a club and have support for all levels of driving, mods, etc. I didn't mean it to sound negative.
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