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kennith said:
If, for example, I asked someone with a fairly popular large grill to cook a fillet until it's well done without drying it out, they couldn't do it.
Kennith, why would you want to cook anything well-done on a grill? Especially a fillet.

Tonight's temp outside is 30 degrees. I grilled a beautiful 1 1/2" thick New York Strip on my shitty charcoal grill. Took about 20 minutes to get the coals hot in my charcoal chimney, and another 20 minutes to grill that steak to a beautiful medium-rare.
Just enough time to let the merlot breathe.

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brian4d

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kennith said:
If I told you how I grew up, it would make perfect sense.

Cheers,

Kennith
I can vouch for the 'q'. Used ours for 6 years grilling at least once a week and it still lights on the first or second press. You have to clean the gunk out of it quarterly but that's about it.

As for the quoted comment, my mother grew up on a farm and is deathly afraid of any types of birds no matter how big or small, and won't eat chicken...
 
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group captain mandrake said:
Tonight's temp outside is 30 degrees. I grilled a beautiful 1 1/2" thick New York Strip on my shitty charcoal grill. Took about 20 minutes to get the coals hot in my charcoal chimney, and another 20 minutes to grill that steak to a beautiful medium-rare.
Just enough time to let the merlot breathe.

You spend all that time and effort to cook a steak and then you drink a merlot with it? Merlots are so damn boring. There's nothing wrong with a merlot, but there's nothing great about them either.

If you are going to eat a nice marbled steak, pair it with a cabernet sauvignon. There will be enough acid and tannin there to complement the steak. Try to find a Red Mountain or Walla Walla Cab. Trust me.

"No, if anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking Merlot!" -Miles from the movie Sideways.
 

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kennith said:
Most grills available are annoyingly flimsy, or prone to rust, stainless or not. This is the case even with the expensive ones. Manufacturers have a nasty habit of using stainless everywhere but the interior. Most manufacturers suck nowadays. I'm disgusted by what I see at Lowes. You really need to go to a specialist supplier to get something nice. Even at those places, I'm annoyed by what I see and test.

Precisely why I did not link to something available from Home Depot. Unfortuntely, I place weber in the exact category that you have placed lowes. Contrary to your claim, there are specialty grills better than a weber for the same price, I just categorically eliminate weber for a gas grill.

I would also look at warranty.

kennith said:
Larger grills have more hot metal, but the massive interior volume created by the big hood releases quite a bit of heat when that hood is opened. The need far more flow to compensate, even if the hood is never opened. Propane can only do so much.

One of the reasons they can tend to be easier to use is rather simple. They heat more slowly. Now, that's not good at all if you take your cooking seriously, and know how to manage heat, which is the key to pretty much everything. A proper steak or burger is cooked over an incredibly hot grate.

The big boys just can't reach temperature most of the time. Even if they do, it takes far longer, and even if the air temperature does get where you want it, thermal capacity often hasn't been reached at the cooking surface. That makes it far more difficult to burn things, but causes slightly increased cooking times, which makes certain tasks impossible. It doesn't take many more seconds to prevent you from doing some things.

If, for example, I asked someone with a fairly popular large grill to cook a fillet until it's well done without drying it out, they couldn't do it.

It is not true that cannot buy a better grill then a weber genesis and it is also not true that you cannot cook a fillet in a similar manner on any large grill.

It is however true that when a fillet is cooked well done, it is over done. :)

Any grill I would consider better be able to get up to 750 or so easily. I've cooked on pretty large grills that can do this and do it very well.

kennith said:
Webers have a more efficient heat chamber than most other grills. The vent is at the bottom, not the top. That makes everything feel much more heavy, which pisses many consumers off. There are other facets of the design that help out as well, but that's the one that's easiest to understand.

The Genesis chamber doesn't even have a bottom. It doesn't need one. It took other manufacturers a very long time to get that far.

Everything just falls straight through to the drip tray, which is heavy enough by itself to kill someone if you so decide. If you want to go big, you really need to go charcoal or spend a fortune.

There are plenty of nice grills out there, but unless you need something with a larger grilling surface, you can only get one that's as good as the Weber, not better. Even the big ones, though, can't actually be better. They are just bigger. There are only so many ways to get a skinny cat. Once you reach a certain point, a part cannot be improved within reason.

When I come across a grill that's as good at cooking, often it turns out to be flimsy. If it's flimsy, I consider it inferior. If the sides and bottom of the heat chamber are prone to corrosion, I likewise consider it inferior.

You must understand, I'll take a new brand new bolt and have it blasted, polished, and plated the way I want. I explore design down to the absolute finest detail.
If I consider something inferior, it could be due to something as small as a bit too much flex at a joint, the way a hinge is designed, or the metal a spring is made from. I'm a bigger pain in the ass than James Dyson. I put Teflon slides on my drip tray.

Just because I don't like something doesn't mean you won't.:)

Wow Kennith, you are so impressively anal retentive.

Yawn...

So why everyone should really buy a weber is because of your analysis of this particular weber grill and your personal recommendation.

I am not even discussing many of your points Kevin. I am not even challenging whether the Weber grill is decent or not. What I am arguing is this:

"You cannot go out and buy a better gas grill. I don't care how much cash you have in your pants. It can't be done."

That is like saying you cannot buy a better SUV than a Rover.
 

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Mike_Rupp said:
You spend all that time and effort to cook a steak and then you drink a merlot with it? Merlots are so damn boring. There's nothing wrong with a merlot, but there's nothing great about them either.

If you are going to eat a nice marbled steak, pair it with a cabernet sauvignon. There will be enough acid and tannin there to complement the steak. Try to find a Red Mountain or Walla Walla Cab. Trust me.

"No, if anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking Merlot!" -Miles from the movie Sideways.

How about a really nice Pinot?
 

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group captain mandrake said:
Kennith, why would you want to cook anything well-done on a grill? Especially a fillet.

Tonight's temp outside is 30 degrees. I grilled a beautiful 1 1/2" thick New York Strip on my shitty charcoal grill. Took about 20 minutes to get the coals hot in my charcoal chimney, and another 20 minutes to grill that steak to a beautiful medium-rare.
Just enough time to let the merlot breathe.

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I shoot for cooking times well under 1/2 of this time. Then a rest time in 110 degree oven for 10 minutes (this is the most important part of cooking a good steak, IMO). Don't alter your cooking technique if you like it, I do not wish to be responsible for a burnt steak. But please, try the rest (if you don't already).

In many cases the rest time can be well over the cooking time. This is the case unless you cook steaks medium-well, have steaks thicker than 1.5" or a grill that does not heat into the 600-1000 degree range easily. Burgers get about the same treatment.
 
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bri said:
Precisely why I did not link to something available from Home Depot. Unfortuntely, I place weber in the exact category that you have placed lowes. Contrary to your claim, there are specialty grills better than a weber for the same price, I just categorically eliminate weber for a gas grill.

I am not even discussing many of your points Kevin. I am not even challenging whether the Weber grill is decent or not. What I am arguing is this:

"You cannot go out and buy a better gas grill. I don't care how much cash you have in your pants. It can't be done."

That is like saying you cannot buy a better SUV than a Rover.

I blieve this was intented to be figurative to show how pleased he was with his grill. I personally knew it was an exaggeration, why belabor the point?

I agree Lowes has gone downhill, I noticed this when they stopped carrying Stihl or husqvarna can't remember which. However, most still carry two Webers, the Spirit and Genesis. If I was going for the "I have the biggest dick on the block" purchase I would be looking at a Viking.
 

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brian4d said:
I agree Lowes has gone downhill, I noticed this when they stopped carrying Stihl or husqvarna can't remember which.
Stihl only sells their products where they can be serviced. I don't think I have ever seen a stihl anything at lowes. I have, however, seen husqvarna at lowes.
 

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Mike_Rupp said:
"No, if anyone orders Merlot, I'm leaving. I am NOT drinking any fucking Merlot!" -Miles from the movie Sideways.

You should have made us guess, I would have got that one.
 

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bri said:
How about a really nice Pinot?

I love Pinots, but they are just too light to pair with a steak.

Cabs are an ideal match for steak. For a steak, you need a wine with good body so it isn't overwhelmed by the steak, good acidity because of the fattiness, and tannin to cleanse the palate. Cabs have all three.

I just had a really nice Pinot the other night from Syncline. I was surprised to have a decent Pinot from WA state, but the Columbia Gorge has a similar climate to the Willamette valley, so I guess they should be capable of making nice Pinots.
 

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I've been grilling my ribeye's this way for a while:

Lightly salt and cover entire steak with corn starch then place in freezer for 1/2 hour.

go out and start the coals on the WEBBER

Drink two beers

Coals should now be flaming

toss on the steaks, turning only once

cook till burnt on outside...they will be rare and juicy inside

the salt & corn starch drys out the exterior creating a cruchy crust and seals in the juices.
 

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Garrett like his women with a crunchy crust that seals in the juices.
 

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Blue said:
Garrett like his women with a crunchy crust that seals in the juices.

Aw man I've hit the jackpot the past few weeks. I feel like you did back when you were snapping pics like there was no tomorrow with your 'Boogie Nights' style pool parties. Ain't nothing crunchy - we're talking smoooooth.