tranny problem after engine replacement

[trailhogg]

hey all,

My indy mechanic just called today, the replacement 4.0 is running smooth but he says the tranny is screwed. Lemme give you the background; the truck over heated (head gasket) and threw the mains out. It was driven onto a trailer and the tranny worked fine after overheat. I drove the truck off of the trailer again with no tranny problems. the truck has been in the garage for nearly 4 weeks now just sitting. Like i said he called today after installing the engine and said that when you shift into drive or reverse a dash light starts flashing, I didnt think to ask which light.


what can i have him check tommorow? What could have happened while the truck just sat? Can a blown engine affect the tranny?

thanks all...i really want my rover back!!!

 

[MUSKYMAN]

so does it move when its shifted into gear?

 

[ptschram]

Gee Thom, you don't suppose the transfer case is in neutral, do you?

 

[Mongo]

beat me to it Paul...

 

[trailhogg]

wow i hadnt thought of that, but if he had put the t-case into nuetral wouldnt (shouldnt) he know enough to put it back into gear? Maybe i shouldnt assume anything. I'll call him first thing in the morn. I would have never thought of something that simple. I was thinking the worst.

thanks

 

[ptschram]

When I worked at the dealership, in the short time I was there, I probably "Fixed" 10-15 trucks that had been towed in. I was embarrassed to hop into a truck that had just been unloaded and reach up to the transfer case shifter, slide it into gear and drive it back outside the shop.

The embarrassment of the owner was short-lived when they realized their thousand dollar fix had only cost them some embarrassment and a tow bill! (kinda like the cute girlie client who keeps leaving her dome light on and has it towed to me. I bill her daddy for my time to hook up the battery charger!)

 

[Roving Beetle]

It's either something simple like that, or a connector left off on the transmission. Unless he didn't line the torque converter up right and drove it through the front pump housing or something...... but I would put $$ on a simple connector loose/off or the transfer not engaged.

 

[ashtrans]

It's either something simple like that, or a connector left off on the transmission. Unless he didn't line the torque converter up right and drove it through the front pump housing or something...... but I would put $$ on a simple connector loose/off or the transfer not engaged.

I would say broken pump,

pull off an oil cooler line with the engine running, it should come out like a hose pipe, if it drips out with no pressure the pump is broken,

 

[Roving Beetle]

I would say broken pump,

pull off an oil cooler line with the engine running, it should come out like a hose pipe, if it drips out with no pressure the pump is broken,

Good advice..... I didn't want to scare him. :ack: Check the simple stuff first, but I suppose it's easy to pull the line too.

I hope for his (and the mechanics) sake it didn't happen. But it's really easy to do if you slap it all together willy-nilly-like. I hate to say that if the mechanic calls and says the trans the f*cked simply because of the lights - he may or may not be all that adept at Rover repair. But maybe there is more to the story.

 

[ptschram]

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt on the pump. To be honest, I can't see where anyone who has ANY experience with engine swaps and transmission work would cause the pump to be damaged. An engine swap is pretty straightforward and of one merely pushes the torque converter back into the transmission, there is little opportunity to do further damage. I will admit though that it can be quite a bear to get the torque converter lined up and engaged if the converter is removed from the trans.

 

[MUSKYMAN]

I would say broken pump,

pull off an oil cooler line with the engine running, it should come out like a hose pipe, if it drips out with no pressure the pump is broken,

I was thinking broken pump as well...hence my question about does it move.

Let's give him the benefit of the doubt on the pump. To be honest, I can't see where anyone who has ANY experience with engine swaps and transmission work would cause the pump to be damaged. An engine swap is pretty straightforward and of one merely pushes the torque converter back into the transmission, there is little opportunity to do further damage. I will admit though that it can be quite a bear to get the torque converter lined up and engaged if the converter is removed from the trans.

Paul

I messed up a pump on one and I have done to many engine swaps in all kinda of trucks and cars to count....those drive spurs are pretty weak IMHO...I now wire the TC in the trans when doing these and then remove the wire after they are mated...I aint going through that again:rofl:

 

[D Chapman]

Y'all pull the motor with the coverter attached? Y'all are brave.

 

[robertf]

I did that once, not realizing the ring gear bolted on in these trucks and unfastening that instead of the TC. Got lucky on that one.

Why would dash lights go on if it was the pump?

 

[MUSKYMAN]

I dont, I seperate the TC from the flex plate.

out isnt the problem really but with the TC still connected the engine is a bit to long to pull easily so its just as easy to pull the starter and remove the bolts at the flexplate.

 

[toadermcgee]

Well; what happened? It is like leaving the last chapter out of a book! Was it a simple fix or do you start a second job soon? opcorn:

Ya don't have much of a life while waiting for parts. :ack:

 

[trailhogg]

well here's some more info...mechanic says that oil is leaking out of the transfer case seal, and by that i assume he means the seal where the drive shaft bolts up, he also says that the truck will start in 'drive', and when he puts it into reverse on the gear selector its not in reverse. He has ordered a nuetral safety switch, whatever that is, costs $150. I have a TC seal to give him, if it is in fact where the drive shafts attaches.

Cant believe I have probably got $1500-2000(labor) into this engine swap and now the tranny goes south, when it rains it pours...

some info on my mechanic; he has been turning wrenches for over 30 years, owns his shop with his brother and they are very very well repsected in my area, especially when it comes to high end imports, audi, bmw, and mercedes. Everyone makes mistakes though.

 

[MUSKYMAN]

but how about rovers?

 

[trailhogg]

i can count on two hands how many rovers are in my county. Its not that he isnt capable, he just hasnt had the opportunity to really get to know them

 

[ptschram]

Its not that he isnt capable, he just hasnt had the opportunity to really get to know them

You don't go to a family doctor to treat cancer for the same reason you don't go to the guy down the street when you own a Rover.

I don't work on anything else but Rovers. I don't know other vehicles and I don't accept jobs on vehicles I don't know how to work on.


I wish more ran their business in a similar fashion.

 

[OFFROVER]

I don't work on anything else but Rovers. I don't know other vehicles and I don't accept jobs on vehicles I don't know how to work on.

Those are words to live by!!

~Corey