ptschram
Well-known member
LOFL!
First off, I can't remember why it was that I didn't like Chapman at first. For some reason, either he has mellowed, or I have begun to look at him and his comments in a different lgiht.
Secondly, it is so nice to see John back with his comments. I've missed them.
W/R/T alcohol on the trails, I look at it just like I do guns on the trail. If you don't see that I'm armed, it does no one any injury. If a person is waving a gun or displaying a sidearm in a holster or shoulder rig, folks are gonna get uncomfortable. Similarly, if a person has a beer in a big covered cup, nobody's gonna be any the wiser. If that person gets puking drunk, everybody's gonna know it, just as though they were displaying their sidearm on their hip.
As for the DUI offroad, several years ago, there was a fatal wreck out on a farm field where a bunch of good ol' boys decided to go wheelin' after a keg party. They rolled a truck, a person got killed, the driver went to prison for vehicular manslaughter/DUI. In Indiana, you can get a seatbelt ticket driving on your farm. Sheriffs don't seem to be discouraged from driving across a field to cite folks for driving infractions in fields or in the woods. In Michigan, the sheriffs and DNR Ranger Nazis have H1 and ATVs to go after folks wheeling or snowmobiling while impaired, the precedent has been st many times.
Clubs-I do not get overly involved in clubs because I know I'll get upset with management, usually just as I start to get overly involved. It's happened with trap/skeet clubs I've belonged to and it happened when I was an officer in the Legion (but that involved criminal behavior and I had many reasons to get out). I much prefer to wheel with a few close friends, rather than a big bunch of folks where the ONLY thing in common is wheeling or Land Rovers
First off, I can't remember why it was that I didn't like Chapman at first. For some reason, either he has mellowed, or I have begun to look at him and his comments in a different lgiht.
Secondly, it is so nice to see John back with his comments. I've missed them.
W/R/T alcohol on the trails, I look at it just like I do guns on the trail. If you don't see that I'm armed, it does no one any injury. If a person is waving a gun or displaying a sidearm in a holster or shoulder rig, folks are gonna get uncomfortable. Similarly, if a person has a beer in a big covered cup, nobody's gonna be any the wiser. If that person gets puking drunk, everybody's gonna know it, just as though they were displaying their sidearm on their hip.
As for the DUI offroad, several years ago, there was a fatal wreck out on a farm field where a bunch of good ol' boys decided to go wheelin' after a keg party. They rolled a truck, a person got killed, the driver went to prison for vehicular manslaughter/DUI. In Indiana, you can get a seatbelt ticket driving on your farm. Sheriffs don't seem to be discouraged from driving across a field to cite folks for driving infractions in fields or in the woods. In Michigan, the sheriffs and DNR Ranger Nazis have H1 and ATVs to go after folks wheeling or snowmobiling while impaired, the precedent has been st many times.
Clubs-I do not get overly involved in clubs because I know I'll get upset with management, usually just as I start to get overly involved. It's happened with trap/skeet clubs I've belonged to and it happened when I was an officer in the Legion (but that involved criminal behavior and I had many reasons to get out). I much prefer to wheel with a few close friends, rather than a big bunch of folks where the ONLY thing in common is wheeling or Land Rovers