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Kyle
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Oh my , just a few scratches. FIx that thing and roll on. Although , I guess dude needs to change this Sig line. Looks like he is having problems with the going anywhere part of it.
Kyle
Kyle
Rolled my XD, over, and over....
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doesn't look too bad in the photo's but in person there's not a straight panel on it, the pillars are bent so the roofs all cocked up and there's the chassis damage. it does drive though. 
barely
barely
funny you should say that. the airbag's didn't deploy, and my seatbelt bolt securing the buckle to the seat snaped leaving me to be thrown about the car. i was on the passanger side roof holding on to the center consol and the steering wheel. I'm very impressed with the fact the cab held up as well as it did, but as far as any of the other "safety" devices i'm severely pissed off to the point of building a case against landrover. more for the seatbelts than the airbags because of the safarigard bumper, but you'd think a double roll over would deploy the airbags. all that aside i'm just glad i'm ok, more thanks to the doing of someone looking out for me from up above than landrover's safety.
No, the double roll should not have deployed the airbags, and you should be glad it didn't - it would've added injury to an insult.
Seatbelt bolt is another matter. Did the pillar bend where the bolt is threaded in?
Seatbelt bolt is another matter. Did the pillar bend where the bolt is threaded in?
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TOZROVR
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Discobro
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That really makes me question that LR is interested in cutting corners where it isn't readily apparent to the consumer. Sure the body and side panels held up but aside the actual heavy body construction, what exactly controls the airbar? Electronics maybe? Lucas maybe? I am really fed up with the electronics in the later model D1's. I have had nothing but problems with them and know MANY other D1 owner that have also. Mechanically very sound - just rip the damn wiring out!
Corey,
according to our former resident P.E. Mr. Jay Espelien, ALL SRS on the U.S. market are deployed by the signal from a deceleration sensor (that is mounted on the body of the vehicle). It measures only the forward deceleration - so no rate of deceleration in other directions affects the sensor.
In a sideways roll, there's very little forward deceleration - so the seat belt was deemed sufficient to restrain the driver's motion. FWIW, I don't know the exact numbers (and they may vary from vehicle to vehicle), but the ballpark threshold for airbag deployment is a 35-40 mph frontal crash. Using a non-airbag-compatible steel bumper is likely to lower this threshold somewhat (my guess - to ~25-30 mph).
according to our former resident P.E. Mr. Jay Espelien, ALL SRS on the U.S. market are deployed by the signal from a deceleration sensor (that is mounted on the body of the vehicle). It measures only the forward deceleration - so no rate of deceleration in other directions affects the sensor.
In a sideways roll, there's very little forward deceleration - so the seat belt was deemed sufficient to restrain the driver's motion. FWIW, I don't know the exact numbers (and they may vary from vehicle to vehicle), but the ballpark threshold for airbag deployment is a 35-40 mph frontal crash. Using a non-airbag-compatible steel bumper is likely to lower this threshold somewhat (my guess - to ~25-30 mph).
the airbag's didn't deploy, and my seatbelt bolt securing the buckle to the seat snaped leaving me to be thrown about the car.
bags shouldn't have deployed
did the seatbelt bolt really snap, or did it just come out of it's hole? When I put new seats in my Disco, I was surprised to find that the passenger side seatbelt buckle retention bolt had loosened over the years and had nearly backed itself out. I had finally found the source of that annoying rattle....
bags shouldn't have deployed
did the seatbelt bolt really snap, or did it just come out of it's hole? When I put new seats in my Disco, I was surprised to find that the passenger side seatbelt buckle retention bolt had loosened over the years and had nearly backed itself out. I had finally found the source of that annoying rattle....
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Kyle
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As far as I know. There have been no car makers that have developed the perfect ani stupidity system. The systems are pretty good and can compensate for most stupidity , but , you are still going to have to take some of the brunt of you your decisions at this time. I know its an inconveinience but I am sure they will come up with something...
Kyle said:
bingo
that was my initial reaction to reading this:
I'm very impressed with the fact the cab held up as well as it did, but as far as any of the other "safety" devices i'm severely pissed off to the point of building a case against landrover.
LOL....I rolled my truck over and something broke! Call my lawyer!
I'm surprised your truck was in as good a shape as it is. How many rolls does rolling your "XD over and over...." mean? I guess I'm still not entirely clear on what transpired.
I was expecting something like this:
or this:
or this:
I was expecting something like this:
or this:
or this:
you've got to be fair, Kyle, ABS does take people for a ride.
The seat belt should not have popped under any circumstances.
The seat belt should not have popped under any circumstances.
As discussed above, the airbags shouldn't be expected to deploy in a rollover situation. But even if they had deployed... That would have been good for the first roll. For subsequebnt turns, they wouldn't have been available.
Having been involved in a multiple rollover in a J**p CJ, once the rolling starts, there is very little one can do but hang on and try to enjoy the ride. Seatbelts should not fail, unless they are faulty, or have been neglected. (No accusations here, I wasn't there.)
Of course the armchair wisdom back then was that if you put seatbelts and roll bars in a J**p that you were just looking for an excuse to use them. Seat belts were just being required in passenger cars. A "Utility" vehicle like the Jeep or Land Rover... well you were supposed to jump away from the wreck. There was also nobody to sue.
Koby-
That white Disco in your pictures rolled over so hard, it turned into a Defender.
-Reed
Having been involved in a multiple rollover in a J**p CJ, once the rolling starts, there is very little one can do but hang on and try to enjoy the ride. Seatbelts should not fail, unless they are faulty, or have been neglected. (No accusations here, I wasn't there.)
Of course the armchair wisdom back then was that if you put seatbelts and roll bars in a J**p that you were just looking for an excuse to use them. Seat belts were just being required in passenger cars. A "Utility" vehicle like the Jeep or Land Rover... well you were supposed to jump away from the wreck. There was also nobody to sue.
Koby-
That white Disco in your pictures rolled over so hard, it turned into a Defender.
-Reed
the bolt on the seatbelt snapped. i've known discovery seatbelt's to work there way loose as you said. we've had 4 discovery's, 2 d1's and 2 d2's and know all the little niggles that need to be maintained and tightning all bolts is one of them. the bolt snapping on a 7 yr old seatbelt bolt is very bad in an accident in my opinion. This was a very low speed accident 5mph at most that took it off the road and sent it rolling twice. the low speed is my guess as to why the cab didn't come in as in some of the pictures above. most of the damage from the roll wasn't on the top of the front screen. the front fenders and rear corners of the car are bent beyond recignition on the xd. i'll have to get some more pictures of it. the one's at hollister don't do the damage of the car justice. i'm glad i'm ok and not after new range rovers from land rover north america but i will bring the seatbelt failure to their attention because it's not on. i've never heard of a seatbelt failing in an accident, ribs being broken from the seatbelt , bolt's coming out after 7 yrs of working loose...sure. but the bolt holding it in shouldn't snap off.The insurance money came through at a little over 10K. I think they'll compensate for some of the off road equiptment on top of that so we'll see. i think it's a fair offer.
Cheers
Jack
Cheers
Jack