Pelican Cases, Lights, etc.

[garrett]

Yup. Me and my KLR650 on the dock at Mary's Harbour, and my bike above the Pinware River near Red Bay, both in Labrador.

Off subject, but did you go out to the island? One of the best parts of that entire trip. Rented three houses out there. Awesome. Yeah I said it.
That is the standard little pull off next to the Pinware outside of Red Bay. Know it well.

 

[Mike_Rupp]

Not so sure I agree, I mean the truck is replaceable my frozen ass not


But hey, not pushing the Pelicans, I just like all my shit in the Pelicans, when I get to a spot all I do is throw them out of the truck and I find everything I need very quick and I know is very dry.

Having a few 1650s just makes everything so easy. After years of having everything completely unorganized and rattling around in the Disco, I bought a few 1650s. One is for all of my cooking stuff and the other is for my tent, sleeping bag, etc.

I realize that there is a cheap fuck mentality that exists and people aren't willing to spend the money, but it just makes life so easy to have all of your stuff in two boxes and not have to worry about your junk getting wet.

When I get home, I just hang my tent and sleeping bag to dry and then pack them back up and I'm ready to go again.

 

[rob mellor]

I'll second that I like the storm cases better. I use pelicans all the time at work so I wanted to try out something different when I was shopping for a case for my bolt gun. I got a storm im3200 and prefer it over the pelicans. It has way better latches and a more comfortable carry handle. I don't know what the baggage monkeys at the airports do but I've picked up pelican cases at baggage before and some how 2 latches were open. I think the storm has a more secure latch. I'll definatly be getting a im3100 for my black rifle soon.

 

[Ballah06]

The dealer I talked to does carry storm cases as well, just looking into other places' prices, as the ones offered by them are not all that great. I will update all if I find something better.

 

[p m]

Having a few 1650s just makes everything so easy. After years of having everything completely unorganized and rattling around in the Disco, I bought a few 1650s. One is for all of my cooking stuff and the other is for my tent, sleeping bag, etc.

I realize that there is a cheap fuck mentality that exists and people aren't willing to spend the money, but it just makes life so easy to have all of your stuff in two boxes and not have to worry about your junk getting wet.

When I get home, I just hang my tent and sleeping bag to dry and then pack them back up and I'm ready to go again.

Let's draw a line between a cheap fuck mentality and longing for a Pelican box.
I personally hate 1650s because of the side latches - meaning I have to drag one completely out in order to flip the lid. I've dealt with that gazillion times because I ultimately used 1650s for field equipment when I worked at Scripps.
At the same time, I grew fond of Zarges boxes. At the volume of 1650 or larger, Pelican cases themselves become noticeably heavier than Zarges.

 

[Timmy!!!!!!!]

I just packed my disco for a camping trip this weekend and I have all of my clothes and sleeping gear in a pelican 1610. Some personal cooking gear and snacks in a 1400 and all of my tools in 1600.

 

[dcarr1971]

A little heavy due to the size, but I just picked up this Hardigg case for <$95. I spotted it on eBay and discovered it was for sale by a local Army/Navy store...

 

[Mike_Rupp]

Let's draw a line between a cheap fuck mentality and longing for a Pelican box.
I personally hate 1650s because of the side latches - meaning I have to drag one completely out in order to flip the lid. I've dealt with that gazillion times because I ultimately used 1650s for field equipment when I worked at Scripps.
At the same time, I grew fond of Zarges boxes. At the volume of 1650 or larger, Pelican cases themselves become noticeably heavier than Zarges.

Peter, you are right, there is a difference between being objective and being a cheap fuck. The latter is the group of people who kid themselves into equating some sort of shitty Rubbermaid Home Depot box with a Pelican.

I don't use my 1650s in the truck. Since I keep them on the back section of the rack the side latches don't bother me. The weight isn't a big issue either because I keep light stuff on the rack like my tent, sleeping bag, etc.

 

[jonesy66]

The Hardigg cases are really bloody heavy!! I was looking at one locally, the bloody thing was 35lbs EMPTY!!!! I know you could drop it from a Hercules transport plane....but jeez - little ol me stuffing it full of camping gear and putting it on the roof would be a back killer.

 

[p m]

Peter, you are right, there is a difference between being objective and being a cheap fuck. The latter is the group of people who kid themselves into equating some sort of shitty Rubbermaid Home Depot box with a Pelican.

I don't use my 1650s in the truck. Since I keep them on the back section of the rack the side latches don't bother me. The weight isn't a big issue either because I keep light stuff on the rack like my tent, sleeping bag, etc.

I wish there was some middle ground for the cases - not useless nuke-blast-proof like Hardigg, but somewhat below the airplane-crash-proof Pelicans.

That said... most likely, when I need one, I'll buy a 1650, take off the latches that I don't want, and reinforce the lid with some lightweight aluminum profile.

 

[ptschram]

I realize that there is a cheap fuck mentality that exists and people aren't willing to spend the money, but it just makes life so easy to have all of your stuff in two boxes and not have to worry about your junk getting wet.

Mike-you'd be surprised at how many Pelican cases I have. Some were even bought from John and Ho.

As for the Hardigg cases, AFIRover bought a fucking truckload of them from an Army liquidation auction. Guess who had to go get them!

I have many of them and use them for everything. My "Truck-carried recovery gear" box is a Hardigg. We have them for our bedding and tent to make damned sure that stuff makes it where we are going and the contents are dry.

Most of my travel cases for my firearms are boxes custom-made for each one by my father. Some of them are really nice with veneer outers, felt insides. Some are plain plywood on the outside with open interiors.

 

[R_Lefebvre]

I realize that there is a cheap fuck mentality that exists and people aren't willing to spend the money, but it just makes life so easy to have all of your stuff in two boxes and not have to worry about your junk getting wet.

Doesn't have anything at all to do with being a cheap fuck. Some of us just realize the things are inefficient. They're heavy, the volumetric efficiency is bad due to the thick walls, rounded corners and external ribbing, and they don't pack efficiently into a cargo hold.

So, you end up needing to put them on the roof. Which means you need a rack. Now not only do you have 30 lbs for each empty case, but 100lbs just for the rack. All way above the CG, and up in the wind. All that weight and drag, now you need extra fuel, so you put some cans on the roof. Way above the CG.

Then the same people will spend $50 on titanium utensils to save a couple ounces.

Accusing people of being cheap fucks is also stupid because they may have just chosen to spend the same amount of money on something that you are too cheap to buy.

 

[p m]

Accusing people of being cheap fucks is also stupid because they may have just chosen to spend the same amount of money on something that you are too cheap to buy.

I think Mike had in mind a general "cheap fuck" mindset - that is, go with a cheapest solution under ALL circumstances .

 

[knewsom]

I think Mike had in mind a general "cheap fuck" mindset - that is, go with a cheapest solution under ALL circumstances .

Agreed.

...and I myself am a cheap fuck. ...but not under all circumstances. There are some things I'm willing to pay more for. I have a small Pelican for electronics while boating, a drybag for clothes and other things I need to keep dry, and I haven't bought and Pelicans for wheeling, because they just seem like overkill, and I just can't justify the high cost for something that crushes my needs in the skull with Mjolnir. Plano boxes do just fine for me, they keep the rain out when on the roof, they keep things organized, they don't weigh a ton, and they're cheap. You can even lock them, though it's sortof a false sense of security, as an angry rabbit wouldn't have much trouble ripping one of those things open if it so set its mind.

I'm 100% with Peter here on wishing for middle-ground.

 

[Tugela]

Then the same people will spend $50 on titanium utensils to save a couple ounces.

This was an attitude I ran across all the time in my mountaineering guide days. I'd frequently get into conversations with clients about saving weight by getting lighter gear. It was really hard for me to hold my tongue, but often what I wanted to say was "You can spend $1,000 on new gear that will cut 6 pounds of weight from your pack, or you can just train harder and lose 6 pounds of weight from your body for free."

 

[Mike_Rupp]

Paul, I wasn't referring to you when I mentioned cheap fuck mentality.

Rob, thanks for the lesson on center of gravity. The thought never crossed my mind. Now that I am educated in such matters, I am commencing on Project Overlandertrailer. My plans are to design a trailer that weighs approximately 1000lbs in order to carry 200 pounds of gear. I will start a build thread on ExPo so that you may offer some engineering advice.

 

[kennith]

Pelicans are as space and weight efficient as the shit you haul with you. How much do you need?

I pack for the trail more efficiently than most most pack for a hike, excluding two Pelicans and a couple of those Bucket Boss bags. One holds most of the tools I require, and the other protects a bagged med-kit. The bags hold other tools and things that are ungainly.

The actual outdoor gear is as tough, light and compact as I've been able to accomplish. Indeed, my entire DII has undergone a very strict diet. Unless I gear up underneath, even fully packed for pointless luxury, it still light. Well, light for a DII, anyway.

If I ever fill even half the space between the rear wheel arches, I'm either strapping something annoying down or carrying fuel.

When I decide to fill up a few Pelicans for other reasons, a few extra pounds are not relevant, and I've always found that they fit very nicely in the cargo area with plenty of room to spare, even when I've got the Engel on board.

They are rectangular, they pack and organize easily, and they fit like a glove in the back. How much space do you need? I use the rack for other things. I've never once had to expand to the rack from the cargo area because of a lack of space.

Cheers,

Kennith

 

[ptschram]

Paul, I wasn't referring to you when I mentioned cheap fuck mentality.

LOL-it's all good.

For some reason, I don't see the need to keep my Rossi revolver, nor my Maverick EBS in a Pelican case-

 

[R_Lefebvre]

Rob, thanks for the lesson on center of gravity. The thought never crossed my mind. Now that I am educated in such matters, I am commencing on Project Overlandertrailer. My plans are to design a trailer that weighs approximately 1000lbs in order to carry 200 pounds of gear. I will start a build thread on ExPo so that you may offer some engineering advice.

:bigok:

 

[Mike_Rupp]

LOL-it's all good.

For some reason, I don't see the need to keep my Rossi revolver, nor my Maverick EBS in a Pelican case-

My Seecamp hasn't been in a Pelican either. Its home is a Galco holster in my pocket.