Osama bin Hadden?

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Also, the helo was exposed now by the media and the professionals over at Aviation Week believe it to be a highly modified Stealth Version of the UH-60.

Wondering if we're in negotiations to transfer the wreckage back to the U.S. and that might have something to do with the release of the photos of OBL. Keep in mind if those photos were released it would just make Pakistan look like a bigger horses ass than they already do.
 
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This heli has been kept very secret. If it has been used before, it has been very little, and only at night, only when they could lock it up when the mission was over. There are no photographs of this thing.
 
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All electricity and cell phone service turned off when they landed??? Wow, I guess those black helicopters really do exist. Even though it's very impressive I wish we were still in the dark on this one.
 
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RBBailey said:
By the way, before too long, I predict that the spin will be that Obama never gave the order to kill, and they will blame the SEALs for being trigger happy.
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We did not want OBL alive. If he was it could progress into a trade or standoff situation with our military personal, civilians or other major threat.
 
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RBBailey said:
By the way, before too long, I predict that the spin will be that Obama never gave the order to kill, and they will blame the SEALs for being trigger happy.
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Want to put a 50 on that? I will give you 3-1 that Obama is still saying he gave the order come the next election.
 
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I didn't say Obama would drop it. Obama doesn't know what to do, he will say he did, he will say he didn't, depending on who's asking. The spin from media, and the other faction that is forming in the White House will be that Obama didn't know what the heck to do, Hillary and Panetta did, but the SEALs did whatever they wanted because they were trigger happy.

http://socyberty.com/issues/white-h...panetta-issued-order-to-kill-osama-bin-laden/

Yesterday, Leon Panetta said, "the US Navy Seals made the final decision to kill bin Laden rather than the president."



(I'm sure he didn't mean it the way it sounds.... ;) After all, the president was probably in the White House, not Pakistan.)
 
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I'm wondering how he was resisting and hiding behind a woman at the same time, was he cowering down behind her, maybe they hit her leg shooting at his head?
You would think we if went through this much trouble of putting troops on the ground we would want him alive, I find it hard to believe it was because of collateral damage, the empty suit had no trouble with it in Libya.

This admin finds it OK to assassinate him but if we had him alive mock-torture would be inhumane. Our freaking morals are so screwed up it's incredible, it's OK to run a incursion onto sovereign soil to take him out but on the flip side ROW severely limits our troops ability in the actual war zone.
 
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sean said:
I'm wondering how he was resisting and hiding behind a woman at the same time, was he cowering down behind her, maybe they hit her leg shooting at his head?
You would think we if went through this much trouble of putting troops on the ground we would want him alive, I find it hard to believe it was because of collateral damage, the empty suit had no trouble with it in Libya.

This admin finds it OK to assassinate him but if we had him alive mock-torture would be inhumane. Our freaking morals are so screwed up it's incredible, it's OK to run a incursion onto sovereign soil to take him out but on the flip side ROW severely limits our troops ability in the actual war zone.
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I take it you've never conducted a raid before? Very easy to armchair this one, but unless you've actually entered a room full of unknowns just realize that you really don't know what happens there. Not tracking on the collateral damage in Libya either-especially since we just got done running strikes in support of that and I know what my pilots hit everynight they went out.

Assassination is a stretch. You could construe it as a politically motivated killing, but nation-states don't need to guise it with such terms-we killed him, we kill people all the time and if you think it's a moral environment that we're talking about it is more illustrative that you've never been in that situation before.
 
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1920SF said:
I take it you've never conducted a raid before? Very easy to armchair this one, but unless you've actually entered a room full of unknowns just realize that you really don't know what happens there. Not tracking on the collateral damage in Libya either-especially since we just got done running strikes in support of that and I know what my pilots hit everynight they went out.

Assassination is a stretch. You could construe it as a politically motivated killing, but nation-states don't need to guise it with such terms-we killed him, we kill people all the time and if you think it's a moral environment that we're talking about it is more illustrative that you've never been in that situation before.
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Good post.
I would like to add that there is no way we could have taken him alive. Think on that.
 
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rovercanus said:
Good post.
I would like to add that there is no way we could have taken him alive. Think on that.
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Concur wholeheartedly there. No way, and no reason. Would never have been worth it to do so.
 
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rovercanus said:
Good post.
I would like to add that there is no way we could have taken him alive. Think on that.
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I've already posted my reasons for this. Furthermore, there was a good change OBL was wearing a vest that would have leveled the whole 3rd floor of the compound and take a few Seals with him. The Suicide vest is not a far stretch by any means.
 
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sean said:
...maybe they hit her leg shooting at his head?
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Either way, I'm impressed with the leg shot / head shot. I've never been on a raid but
I do spend a lot of time at the range and confident I could make a couple center mass
hits at short range under stress. Accurate head shot on one and leg shot on another -
no way.

Our guys are calm, precise and accurate under stress. I see it as a split second deliberate
"this one may live" (leg shot) "this one must die" (head shot).
 
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I know what happened!

NSW SEALs descended on the compound in a helicopter. They breached the compound and shot and killed Osama Bin Laden.

Is there something I'm missing?
 
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