"Oh Damn... where did we park the B1????

knewsom

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I wonder how to get in touch with them to buy parts. It'd be sick to put another panel in the disco, center-dash, with an altimeter, roll/pitch gauge, etc. ...and if they were out of a fighter plane or something, that'd be even cooler. :p
 

Drillbit

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knewsom said:
I wonder how to get in touch with them to buy parts. It'd be sick to put another panel in the disco, center-dash, with an altimeter, roll/pitch gauge, etc. ...and if they were out of a fighter plane or something, that'd be even cooler. :p

Netjaws did that already
 

chris snell

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knewsom said:
I wonder how to get in touch with them to buy parts. It'd be sick to put another panel in the disco, center-dash, with an altimeter, roll/pitch gauge, etc. ...and if they were out of a fighter plane or something, that'd be even cooler. :p

Just remember, you might be around here five years later, reading this old post of yours.

Then again, you might sell your truck and buy an Honda Element like the rest of them.
 

az_max

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my brother's friend was stationed out there for a while and I tried to get a tour, but by that time they had cut off civilian tours. There's still a museum down at the base that has lots of parts and pics of the boneyard throughout the years. Worth visiting if your in hte area.
 

brian4d

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I believe there is a civilian bone yard in the same area. My father ferried airliners out there years ago. You would not believe the stories he told me about engines not running up to full power, or avionics being out of whack but he still did it. Every pilot calls for a 'V2' then rotation during take off. This is basically the point of no return rolling down the runway. Once the pilot calls 'v1' there is no turning back, lose an engine it doesn't matter it's got to fly.

These guys apparently left the control lock in place before rotation. The control lock is put in place for parking any plane for an extended period. Basically you can't move the controls until the lock is out. These guys left it in and forgot to remove it, something they would have caught if they had completed their pre-flight checklist correctly. Basically they could not control the surfaces after airborne. If they noticed it 1/2 way down the runway I'm sure the co-pilot was frantically trying to remove it before rotation. Unfortunately it was to late. You know what they say, dead men tell no lies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wxr4tdxwGI
 

az_max

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brian4d said:
I believe there is a civilian bone yard in the same area. My father ferried airliners out there years ago. You would not believe the stories he told me about engines not running up to full power, or avionics being out of whack but he still did it. Every pilot calls for a 'V2' then rotation during take off. This is basically the point of no return rolling down the runway. Once the pilot calls 'v1' there is no turning back, lose an engine it doesn't matter it's got to fly.

These guys apparently left the control lock in place before rotation. The control lock is put in place for parking any plane for an extended period. Basically you can't move the controls until the lock is out. These guys left it in and forgot to remove it, something they would have caught if they had completed their pre-flight checklist correctly. Basically they could not control the surfaces after airborne. If they noticed it 1/2 way down the runway I'm sure the co-pilot was frantically trying to remove it before rotation. Unfortunately it was to late. You know what they say, dead men tell no lies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wxr4tdxwGI

Pinal Air Park, just north of Tucson, is where they pickle the commercial jets. You can see the tails from i-10 as you drive past Marana. My old Facilities Manager was going to get a job out there (he lives nearby), but my old company offered him more to stay. That's another place I would have loved to take a trip through. The airfield is still an active strip, and a company called Evergreen International leases planes to the US Gov't and the USPS. During the Christmas season, it's not uncommon to see an Evergreen 747 at the Sky Harbor freight terminal being unloaded by the USPS trucks. Evergreen also built the 747 tanker for wildfires.
 

brian4d

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az_max said:
Pinal Air Park, just north of Tucson, is where they pickle the commercial jets. You can see the tails from i-10 as you drive past Marana. My old Facilities Manager was going to get a job out there (he lives nearby), but my old company offered him more to stay. That's another place I would have loved to take a trip through. The airfield is still an active strip, and a company called Evergreen International leases planes to the US Gov't and the USPS. During the Christmas season, it's not uncommon to see an Evergreen 747 at the Sky Harbor freight terminal being unloaded by the USPS trucks. Evergreen also built the 747 tanker for wildfires.

So the civil boneyard is in the same area. I knew it was close just not sure how far. Those pilots that fly the fire tankers have big brass balls IMO, the smoke jumpers too for that matter.
 

mgreenspan

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brian4d said:
Once the pilot calls 'v1' there is no turning back, lose an engine it doesn't matter it's got to fly.

Not quite true, but very close. Most situations you're going with it after that point. I can think of a few that you aren't.

brian4d said:

Holy shite! Is this real? The audio of the guy is ridiculous. And I honestly can't imagine a human being not removing a control lock. All the ones I've ever seen are massive and you can't do shit or even move the rudder pedals, so how'd the taxi? Real(as in it had pilots on board) or not, it's insane.
 

brian4d

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mgreenspan said:
Not quite true, but very close. Most situations you're going with it after that point. I can think of a few that you aren't.


Holy shite! Is this real? The audio of the guy is ridiculous. And I honestly can't imagine a human being not removing a control lock. All the ones I've ever seen are massive and you can't do shit or even move the rudder pedals, so how'd the taxi? Real(as in it had pilots on board) or not, it's insane.

True, multiple tire blowouts, smoke in the cabin, maybe...


My understanding it's real. Just elevator control locks were in place.