LPG - propane conversion

Lutzgaterr

Lutzgaterr

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When you mention Ford as the owner of LR, that is about to change to the India company TaTa.
I can see the new line of Rovers now, with beads hanging down from the sun visors, bright mult-color schemes and all vehicles shrunk down to look like peanuts on wheels.
 
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Wasn't India a British colony to begin with??? My how the worm has turned...
 
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R_Lefebvre said:
Same reason we don't have more diesel cars. It costs more than nothing to upgrade, and they now have to have a thought about where they will stop for fuel.
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No, lack of diesel engines in cars and light trucks in the U.S. is because of ridiculously low limits on NOx emission set by EPA. I don't remember the exact numbers, but it is about 1/10th of that in Europe. High-compression, hotter-burning, diesel engines naturally emit a lot of nitrogen oxides, but still less than gas-guzzlers of the mid-70s when NOx regulations went in force in fears of acid rains.
 
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gmookher said:
why havent US automakers jumped on the alternate fuel bandwagon so much as the hybrid electric technology if LPG is so 'economical'
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American fuel prices are too low (compared to the rest of the world) therefore there is no reason to invest

Australia has a significant LPG reserves but has limited light oil reserves. The UK is in a similar situation

The Australian Government is actually rebating the costs of installation of LPG systems to cars

Petrol in Australia sells at about AUD $1.50 per litre (depending on day of week), LPG is about AUD $0.60 per litre.

LPG is a bit kinder to the environment; for the Govenment's viewpoint widespread use of local LPG is far better for the balance of trade and the economy than importing fuel from overseas. It means that the Australian economy is shielded a bit from major fuel price fluctuations

As LPG conversions have been around for over 30 years, beginning with a hose connected to the carby, the systems currently in use is Oz are fairly sophisticated. including LGP/diesel

Ford Australia markets an LPG only vehicle

The only problem is that once you get way out bush, the costs of cartage become prohibitive; for long distance travel diesel is the prefered fuel

The other issue is that the gas tank etc limits usable storage space; adds weight, and is not conducive to reasonable acceleration on smaller cars
 
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gmookher said:
why havent US automakers jumped on the alternate fuel bandwagon so much as the hybrid electric technology if LPG is so 'economical'
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No automaker has jumped on any bandwagon for purposes of building an "economical" car. They're building hybrids because gullible politicians and uninformed consumers think a hybrid is "green". Most of them have a carbon footprint like Godzilla compared to a normal gasoline engine car, due to the environmental impact of creating the batteries or other components that support their alternate propulsion.

LPG is "greener" that gasoline. It is not popular in the US for the many of the same reasons diesels were not popular for years -- gasoline is relatively cheap in the US, and it is the only consistently available fuel across the US. Diesel is on the come, but still lags gasoline in availability. Just be patient. Someone will manage to make LPG attractive before too long, it's definitely more attractive to a politician that diesel.
 
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dawey1

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Propane conversion vehicles have been in large fleet use for a long time.
All or most of the taxis in Toronto are run on LPG.

There does not appear to be any real decrease in acceleration or performance as those crazy taxi drivers still cut people off and drive like idiots.

Just my $0.02

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