John McCain - Would you vote for him?
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What? You're already causing me to protest the vote?
Well, if it were between Hillary and McCain, I would go with McCain.
Well, if it were between Hillary and McCain, I would go with McCain.
I didn't know there were Mccain haters out there. Seems like he's the guy either side of the isle likes to name drop to giver credibility to their cause. More importantly I think John is a good down to earth person who has leadership skills and a grip on reality. Hillary is a politician and a cunt who is know for here polarizing views. If Hillary runs for president I'll register democrat just so I can vote against her in the primary.
She is no Bill Clinton, that's for sure.
She is no Bill Clinton, that's for sure.
blkdiscoII said:
Ditto.
McCain is a RINO : a Republican In Name Only.
In the leadup to 2000, I was pulling for McCain, I *really* didn't like Bush at all.... but since then, after looking at him more closely, his votes, I can't back him enthusiastically..
If it were him against Hillary, I'd look REALLY hard at the Independent candidate, but if that person wasn't elected, or was someone that would draw enough votes off to let Hillary win, I'd go with McCain, but it would again be an unenthusiastic lesser-of-two-evils approach than I'd have with some other candidate.
If the Democrats would run Lieberman, I'd vote Democrat.... I wouldn't have done that in 2000, but today I would.
I don't hate McCain, I liked him...until he gave legitimacy to those who said the US deserved the 9-11 attacks.nosivad_bor said:
In essence, yes.nosivad_bor said:
I think his moderate Democrat approach along with traditional values would make for an excellent, and yet balanced, administration.
However, he doensn't have a chance in hell of getting the Democrat's bid on 2008, at least not with Pelosi and Reid coming into the forefront recently, and Dean heading up the party.
In all honesty, I really like Mit Romney; however I've only heard him speak once, while it was impressive, I'd like to hear more of what he has to say.
In the run-up to 2000, I would have picked McCain over Lieberman. Immediately after 9/11, I was thankful that Lieberman wasn't the VP, as I think Gore wouldn't have handled things right, and having someone in office dealing with Muslims who they would view as being under Israel's control would have had deep ongoing repercussions. I didn't have a problem with him being Jewish, but I think it would have caused the US problems.
Today, I've really notched my view of McCain down, and respect Lieberman a lot more than I did. I don't agree with him on everything, but on the whole, I'd take him over McCain.
Today, I've really notched my view of McCain down, and respect Lieberman a lot more than I did. I don't agree with him on everything, but on the whole, I'd take him over McCain.
antichrist said:
Same here. He was looking pretty good in 2000, up until the run-up to the SC primary when he got 'swift-boated' by Rove el als. End of campaign. Still liked the guy, tho'....
Like you said, McCain has been pandering to the far-right religous folks as of late, the same ones Rove recently referred to as "the nuts."
apg said:
A clarification of Swift-Boating. It means to expose a person as a liar, to bring the truth forward.
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