Hummer catches fire while winching...

[brianhoberg]

I was checking one of the sites I frequent and came across these pics of a Hummer H1 trying to supposedly winch a garbage truck.....
it ended up catching fire.

http://www.ehowa.com/features/hummernotsotough.shtml

:rofl:

 

[stevo]

Holy carbeque batman!!!!

 

[Tims95Disco]

Probably had an Optima battery.:smilelol:

 

[peter sherman]

He used rover oil lines.

 

[antichrist]

See? If only he'd been using synthetic winch line.

 

[Mongo]

ok...i think i'll single pull something that weights 5 times what my truck weights...

 

[jhmover]

Dude is lucky he didn't start a forest fire. Next time someone tells you their Hummer is "hot", show them this!

 

[lowwill]

What's he gonna tell his insurance agent? :victory:

 

[D Chapman]

TJM Isolator.

 

[emmodg]

I'm sure that'll buff right out!

 

[agbuckle98]

it looks like the fire started under the hood, and if the civvy Hummer is anything like the Mil spec ones, the batteries are under the passenger seat. I wonder how that dump truck guy thought he was gonna get out of there anyway? It looks pretty slippery in the pictures!

 

[garrett]

correct. the H1 and Humvee have dual batteries under the passenger seat. only difference being that Humvees are 24 volt. many of the new 1114s have rear mounted hydraulic winches though. some lighter (unarmored) ones have electric Warns in the front. most H1s run the Warn up front with the narrow drum.

 

[D Chapman]

correct. the H1 and Humvee have dual batteries under the passenger seat. .

Negative. The H1's have the two batteries under the hood, on the Pass side.

 

[garrett]

hmm. not that ones we saw in GA. maybe they were ex mil. must have been then.

still........those things make Rovers look like Hondas. fucking junk anyway. we lost half the trucks over the past 2 1/2 weeks in Nevada. it was a pathetic. we had 12 NEW 1114 Humvees. of those one blew a head gasket, a t-case, half shafts, motor mounts, brakes (twice), overheating issues, etc, etc.

they should all burn and have Toyota build them something useful.

 

[D Chapman]

I heard they Humvees were being replaced with some new vehicle. Not sure on the details, though.

I'm not even sure why AMG, or who ever makes the Humvees now, uses the parts they do. The half-shafts were intended to be the weak link, and I can understand why that is. But, they use a chain driven t-case that has proven over and over again to be junk. The 6.7L chevy does not get the proper cooling it needs, thus blows the #8 cylinder gasket every 15,000 miles. Over the last 20 years the things have been made, one would think they would get a clue. They finally got it almost right with the A1 Alpha, then they stopped production. I guess the military pulled the plug to warrant further testing on the civvies.

 

[garrett]

yes from what i heard as well it will not be long until it is replaced with something else.

the t-case is essentially a jeep 242 from what i was told by some Humvee/H1 experts i know in GA.

the 1114s are uparmored trucks that weigh in at 14K lbs and the Humvee was never designed to carry that kind of weight, so i understand to some degree that they will have issues. they are a great vehicle for what they were designed for. a light duty troop carrier. now they are being asked to carry 7K pounds of armor, Mark 19s, .50 cals, etc. and in several kinds of configurations.

but even in their stock format they have many weaknesses that were brought about by poor engineering and "lowest bidder" syndrome. who would design a truck to need 3 kinds of half shafts? how simple could it have been to make it a field servicable truck?

they do have HD half shafts for the 1114s (uparmored) trucks, but they still can't take the abuse. the ball joints and tie rods are VERY weak and break if you look at them funny.

what is impressive is their braking ability. the hydroboost brakes kick ass. we did have the brakes catch fire on one truck, but in 90+ degee heat with 14K pounds to carry can you blame them.

they were never designed or intended for trails either and we took them full of gear and weapons on trails in elevation from 4K to 9K feet attempting to simulate situations in Afghanistan. most got us there and back, but a large percentage needed assistance to limp back for repairs.

the military needs something lighter and more versatile.

 

[agbuckle98]

the military needs Defenders!!!!!!!!! Marine Corps recon uses them, as well as Mercedes G Class vehicles, and everyone I ever talked to while I was in said nothing bad about them at all and wouldn't touch a Humvee at all after operating one of the other vehicles. We have already figured out the best trucks, why can't we have them anymore?

 

[garrett]

a good thing about the Humvee is that it can take an IED hit and keep its occupants alive in many cases. not to mention the room in the Humvees for weapons, radios, etc. the Humvees were also designed to have crew serve weapons on top, thus the wide stance. the profile is a dead give away and they make a great target.

i was with a guy last week that logged 120K miles in Iraq with his group and they were hit with 3 IEDs. they all survived. it had been the 7th hit for one guy in his group. talk about cheating death. but in that time they recovered 52 IEDs.

i think they have been a great vehicle for their initial intended purpose, but it's time to develop something lighter, more reliable and more stealthy. the enemy can hear the Humvee coming from miles away. not to mention they hardly fit on the mule trails in Afghanistan.

 

[antichrist]

http://www.lrm.co.uk/archive/military/safepassage.html

 

[Disco007]

A Land Cruiser wouldn't have burned and it could've winched that dump truck up the hill and back home.

OOPS sorry wrong thread...that was meant for the LC side of DWEB