Hudson River plane crash
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I am still waiting to see if someone has actual video footage of that plane landing on the water.
I'm still waiting on someone to use the correct terminology. The crew ditched it not crashed it. No offense to the OP. That is what all the talking heads and news agencies are saying "...crash landing..." when it was actually a ditching.
Cheers,
Mike
Cheers,
Mike
I've read that the A320 main structure is made of carbon fiber. I'd bet that the strength of the carbon fiber helped the plane remain intact after contacting the water.
Anyways, the pilot did a phenomenal job.
Anyways, the pilot did a phenomenal job.
flyfisher11 said:
Yes you are right
, bird strikes can be a real danger but for the most part they just down the engine....we had an F/A-18 make an emergency landing here a while back after it sucked a seagull through one of its intakes, turned around and made it back on one engine.
ZMayo85 said:Yes you are right
Yep I've eaten my fair share of birds during my flying carreer. The big fans on the C-5 were pretty forgiving but I've had to shut a few down in flight due to excessive engine vibes. We had one many years ago at Dover that hit a flock of snow geese and lost three engines on final. Right at touchdown they lost the fouth. Lucky bastards. That plane was fucked up for a long time. It stunk too. Lots of the birds went through the leading edges of the wings. The jet is still flying though. It has a big placard on the flight station that says, "The Goose Slayer".
Cheers,
Mike
Very good flying. I'f I'm going to crash, I want Sully at the controls! atriot:
My favorite pic:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregorylam/3200086900/sizes/o/
flight log:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1549/history/20090115/2026Z/KLGA/KCLT/tracklog
Splashdown:
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-182512
First Ferry on the scene:
http://www.alleyinsider.com/2009/1/us-airways-crash-rescue-picture-citizen-jouralism-twitter-at-work
atriot:My favorite pic:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gregorylam/3200086900/sizes/o/
flight log:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE1549/history/20090115/2026Z/KLGA/KCLT/tracklog
Splashdown:
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-182512
First Ferry on the scene:
http://www.alleyinsider.com/2009/1/us-airways-crash-rescue-picture-citizen-jouralism-twitter-at-work
flyfisher11 said:
I understand what you're saying. They're using the terminology that will sell more drama. Ditching doesn't "sound" as terrible as "crash landing."
the national news is now reporting that both engines were broken off during landing...makes me wonder if it would have floated so nice had they not?
so mike what is the difference between ditching it and crashing?
so mike what is the difference between ditching it and crashing?
NBC is now saying "Ditched"
they also keep saying that "nobody's ever ditched successfully"
Mike is that really true? nobody ever? seems far fetched but I know nothing about this.
they also keep saying that "nobody's ever ditched successfully"
Mike is that really true? nobody ever? seems far fetched but I know nothing about this.
ditching is the intentional act of landing on water while you still have some control of the aircraft. crashing is, well... when you dont have control of the aircraft.
i hate cleaning up after a bird strike. oh it stinks so bad. once I worked on a seneca II that took a duck on approach into SLC. it impacted right under the windscreen retainer on the pilots side and went into the back of the pannel. duck guts and feathers everywhere. i pulled the entire pannel out one piece at a time and cleaned all the carnage out and put it all back together what a task that was. and did i mention the stink.
i hate cleaning up after a bird strike. oh it stinks so bad. once I worked on a seneca II that took a duck on approach into SLC. it impacted right under the windscreen retainer on the pilots side and went into the back of the pannel. duck guts and feathers everywhere. i pulled the entire pannel out one piece at a time and cleaned all the carnage out and put it all back together what a task that was. and did i mention the stink.
MUSKYMAN said:
thats bullshit. but i guess it depends on your definition of successful.
youtube is blocked at work but search for the footage of a 767 i think it was, that was hi-jacked from ethiopia i belive and ditched off the coast. they ran out of fuel and put it down off just off the coast. the footage is from people at a resort or hotel, they could just about wade out and get people. that is the first big one that comes to mind. i have a few more in mind i will post later tonite from home.
here is another one i was thinking of. while not technically a ditching its pretty much the same thing. every one got out just fine just minor injuries. long story short he landed long on a too short runway while too heavy and going the wrong way for the wind and went into the drink. then the engines restarted because of the water that got into the FADEC controllers. i think there has been a service bulletin or something to make sure that this particular malfunction cant happen again but im not 100% sure on those details as i dont work on many citation jets.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_ckTL9c9vQ
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=NYC05LA085&rpt=fi
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20050526X00676&key=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_ckTL9c9vQ
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=NYC05LA085&rpt=fi
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20050526X00676&key=1
here is the ethiopian airline one. i guess it was not "sucessful" because only 50 people lived. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zA5FMFVbVZ0&feature=related
az_max said:
Sure as shit had a compressor stall. That is the loud bang all those pax were describing. It's a jet engine hick upping for sure!
"normal" compressor stall you retard the throttles to idle. If the engine recovers you push 'em back up. If it does it again you shut it down. Think about that. That is only one of multiple issues the pilot was dealing with in that three minute flight. He probably figured quickly that the engines were not going to recover and immediately decided on the obvious. Dude was spot on!
edit: And most importantly is what the Capt did once they hit the water. His evacuation orders and procedures were incredible. To have the where with all to order the deployment of shoots, rafts, and clearing the cabin. Many times we would fuck up in the sims after having performed exellently during emergencies. You work you ass to get the plane on the ground only to fuck it up once stopped.
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