First look at RockStar Fabrication RRC front bumper

[Roxtar]

Yeah, what is the problem? We don't like it. We think it looks like shit. He came here looking for opinions and he got them. If he did not want opinions, he would have never posted the thread.

Dan, this is the second time you've said this and I'll point you back a couple pages.
Please read it this time.

Dan, even you can't possibly think I post these threads looking for your input.
I put my feelings about your opinions as simply as I can here:
http://www.discoweb.org/forums/showpost.php?p=521278&postcount=35

This thread is simply a way to let people (I've had several requests for this product) know the bumper is out.

There are four words in my origional post.
Which one of them asked for your opinion?

I simply stated it was out.
I did it because I was asked to do so by people here who are interested in the design.
Since you're obviously not one of them; why are you posting?
Yes Dan, we all know how you feel about tube.
Your only goal on this thread is to stir shit and rip on people.
That's fine, it's an open forum and that is your SOP but don't pretend anyone ever asks you for it.
At some point, doesn't it get as boring for you to type as it is for us to read?

BTW, michaels, I'd love to read some of Dan's "valid points on design and function". At least that could lead to an intelligent discussion.
All I see are statements like "tube looks like shit".
Not much of a starting point for intelligent conversation.

 

[nosivad_bor]

He has, hasn't he? I was about to ask him if the bumper was okay after the truck was gone...
But - I can imagine Rob not having this bumper drawn in Solidworks. At least, not entirely.
This is THE shit, baby.

The bumper survived with just a small ding! the fact is the bumper was the reason the truck was totaled, rather than giving and bending it sort of bent the frame horns 45 deg and tore into the crossmember like a can opener.

I layed it out in acad then built it by hand with foam board and took it to a guy who unfoldedit and bent it on brake to match. I have unigraphics now so maybe i will reverse engineer my bumper and release the plans with building instructions.

 

[D Chapman]

Dan, this is the second time you've said this and I'll point you back a couple pages.
Please read it this time.
There are four words in my origional post.
Which one of them asked for your opinion?

I simply stated it was out.
I did it because I was asked to do so by people here who are interested in the design.
Since you're obviously not one of them; why are you posting?
Yes Dan, we all know how you feel about tube.
Your only goal on this thread is to stir shit and rip on people.
That's fine, it's an open forum and that is your SOP but don't pretend anyone ever asks you for it.
At some point, doesn't it get as boring for you to type as it is for us to read?

So, you came here to advertise?

 

[Lucasd2002]

buy my shit!

If you don't mind my saying, I can see you're out of aces. If you're going to play the game, boy, you got to learn to play it right. You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away and know when to run.

 

[Roxtar]

BTW, a lot of people have made comments about Rob's bumper and, since this seems to be the place for unsolicited criticism, I thought I'd add mine.

Rob, that may be the nicest version of that style bumper I've seen.
Generally, I'm not a fan of the thin squared off look but you've done a beautiful job of making this style actually flow nicely (no small task).
The small angles and nuances keep it from looking like rectangular tubing as many do.
You've obviously put a lot of thought into the design before grabbing the welder and it shows.
I like it far better than any commercially available bumpers of this style I've seen.

 

[marc olivares]

stop being a suck up... rawbs bumper sucks too.

 

[Axel]

As for suspporting Dweb, I actually emailed the site asking if there was anything set up for vendor donations, product givaways, whatever, and was told there wasn't. Obviously, I'm a new company, not exactly rolling in cash, but I'd be happy to do what I can.

Then please use the donation button. DiscoWeb isn't exactly rolling in cash, either.

 

[Axel]

How many states even have safety inspections anymore?

Quite a few, actually. Your design will never pass a New Jersey inspection.

 

[D Chapman]

Quite a few, actually. Your design will never pass a New Jersey inspection.

Or Virginia

 

[ptschram]

Quite a few, actually. Your design will never pass a New Jersey inspection.

Brad and I are both in Indiana. While Indiana has little to offer in wheeling opportunities, we do have lifetime CCW with few requirements other than not being a felon, no vehicle safety inspections and emissions testing in only a few counties. Hell, we can even pack heat in a bar! LOL, there are many instances in Fort Wayne alone where robberies were thwarted by multiple patrons being armed!

 

[ArmyRover]

LOL, there are many instances in Fort Wayne alone where robberies were thwarted by multiple patrons being armed!

Or at gas stations where the clerk blasted the would be robber....

 

[Axel]

That may be so, but the point I was getting at is that if Brad is actually planning to sell his bumpers outside of Indiana, it may be worth his while to research regulations in the various states he intends to market to, and adjust his design accordingly. But, it's not my design or business - so he may stick to the old Henry Ford model of marketing if that's what he want's to do. Maybe the Indiana rock crawler circle is bigger than I realize. What do I know, I carry Jerry cans even when I'm not going to Morocco....

 

[Gordo]

Rob your bumper reminds me of the Scropion Racing one I had on my RRC. Looks good. BTW that is my favorite bumper made for the D1 or the RRC. Good approach angle and built strong. I personally prefer the blade style myself as it is much easier to work on without the upper bars in the way. Gordo

 

[Roxtar]

Well, I've spoken to three companies who've been making prerunner style bumpers for a lot of years.
Every one of them has bars partially crossing the headlights.
Every one said they have NEVER had a single issue with inspections.
I'm guessing they've sold one or two in Jersey, Virginia, and Utah.

Sorta like the beadlock legality thing. I suppose it's possible to have a problem but, realistically, it doesn't happen.

Anyway, if someone is still concerned about it, I'd have no problem lowering the side support bars or even substituting a standard style brush guard in place of the prerunner bar.

 

[D Chapman]

Sorta like the beadlock legality thing. I suppose it's possible to have a problem but, realistically, it doesn't happen.

I don't know about other states, but in Virginia, it's a DOT issue. The only peron with the authority to write you for beadlocks in a State Policeman. The people who inspect your vehicle do not look to see if you have beadlocks. Even if they did, they could not fail you for it. Futhermore, some beadlocks are DOT legal.

They are safety inspections. Although I would agree that wheel have a lot to do with safety, Virginia has left this out of their safety requirements. The tires are inspected, but not the wheels.

They do look at your lights, though. They also look for light obstructions. Your bumper is a light obstruction.

 

[Roxtar]

I don't know about other states, but in Virginia, it's a DOT issue. The only peron with the authority to write you for beadlocks in a State Policeman. The people who inspect your vehicle do not look to see if you have beadlocks. Even if they did, they could not fail you for it. Futhermore, some beadlocks are DOT legal.

They are safety inspections. Although I would agree that wheel have a lot to do with safety, Virginia has left this out of their safety requirements. The tires are inspected, but not the wheels.

They do look at your lights, though. They also look for light obstructions. Your bumper is a light obstruction.

Be that as it may, it's never been an issue.
ProtoFab, for one, has been selling this style bumper for Scouts, Broncos, and Jeeps for twenty years without a single problem with inspection compliance.
Anywhere.

Anyway, like I said, if anyone's worried I'd have no problem working around it.

 

[D Chapman]

Be that as it may, it's never been an issue.
ProtoFab, for one, has been selling this style bumper for Scouts, Broncos, and Jeeps for twenty years without a single problem with inspection compliance.
Anywhere.

Anyway, like I said, if anyone's worried I'd have no problem working around it.

Again, bullshit. Even people here, on Dweb, who live in Virginia, have had problems with the stock Land Rover brush bar with headlight guards.

You may very well be able to sell these, even to people in Virginia, and not have issues. It still looks like shit.

 

[Roxtar]

Again, bullshit. Even people here, on Dweb, who live in Virginia, have had problems with the stock Land Rover brush bar with headlight guards.

You may very well be able to sell these, even to people in Virginia, and not have issues. It still looks like shit.

Yea, it's probably a LR thing.
Jeeps Broncos, Scouts, Toys,... they all get a pass by inspectors.
They must just love to stick it to you poor VA LR owners.

So should I mark you down for two? :bigok:

 

[Nomar]

Well, my wife was pulled over in a stock RR with factory headlight guards, and given a warning by the VA SP.:rofl:

Good luck with your bumpers .

 

[ptschram]

Wasn't it Virginia that DCX had to make the covers for the Liberty roofrack lights?
I seem to recall that one state or another took exception to the lights and the manufacturer responded with plastic covers.