Choose your spotter carefully!
- Thread starter Rover Mac
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This is exactly why I do my own ground recon on foot first. And if I have to I stop every few feet to recheck, so be it. But then I do most of my offroading solo which is bad in itself. But I keep it in perspective. I don't go into extreme situations that I know I can't handle.
p m said:
It is advised / requested to drive down only to avoid trail damage, run the trail several times but never used a spotter on Heart Attack Hill, Window Smasher and the squeeze are more challenging for a full size LR.
his rate of travel was faster than a crawl, there in lies the mistake
he bounced, mistake number two
i wont even get into the spotter, I have encoutered, well, lets just be polite and call it spotter error, well its teh drivers call at the end of the day, only you are in control of your rig
..me and my rig can do that section spotter free, tho I'd wear my seat belt and get some more air out of my tires...and choose a different line, i kept expecting him to turn driver but he failed to
it was sophomoric from driver as well as spotter
he bounced, mistake number two
i wont even get into the spotter, I have encoutered, well, lets just be polite and call it spotter error, well its teh drivers call at the end of the day, only you are in control of your rig
..me and my rig can do that section spotter free, tho I'd wear my seat belt and get some more air out of my tires...and choose a different line, i kept expecting him to turn driver but he failed to
it was sophomoric from driver as well as spotter
roverMc said:
X2... I almost always wear a seatbelt on the trail - you just never know. Had she buckled up, she probably would've walked away from that crash with only a few bumps and bruises.
That slow motion scream was too much. I laughed my ass off. Is this that geriatric off-roading club I heard about?
I usually keep my nose outta shit that I know nothing about, and I'm not the worlds best spotter and have a lot to learn. Getting that outta the way, I have never seen more horrible spotting in my life. Even as a mere spectator I couldn't interpret his hand signals, much less trying to focus on driving and trying to decipher his motioning. And as he kept pointing to the rock on the Jeeps right with one hand and motioning forward with his other hand, all I could think of was why the hell he was sending her up that steep outcropping with one wheel only to allow her other wheel to drop in a hole leading to the initial toppling over. If I were 100% trusting my spotter I would have done exactly as he stated and ended up flipping, too, but I bet my fancy "hair standing up on my neck monitor" or my "ass puckering alarm" would have went off telling me something wasn't right.
I know the dude has got to feel bad, but damn. And not wearing a seatbelt? Double damn!
I know the dude has got to feel bad, but damn. And not wearing a seatbelt? Double damn!
To the driver's defense, if you're not experienced (which she surely wasn't), there needs to be a level of trust in the spotter. Its unfortunate that it had to end that way. The driver had no idea that something wasn't right because she'd never been in that situation (IMHO).
As for not wearing a seat belt, that's just plain stupid. It's the first thing I do when I sit in the truck. Period, end of sentence!
As for not wearing a seat belt, that's just plain stupid. It's the first thing I do when I sit in the truck. Period, end of sentence!
Im impressed how the Jeep actually held up to the tumble...didnt even bust the windscreen...The driver and spotter combo...not so impresive
yeah well if you dont have the experience you shouldnt be on that trail; and it is the spotters job to assess the driver and the rig before they start.
I dont take folks with me who I dont think have the skill level. If youre so green, go run some easy trais till you turn blue, then black etc
If you have never wheeled a rover I am not sure I am gonna take you up and down say...Cliffhanger, while its an easy trail, its one where experience and knowing your rig counts or a day of fun can turn wrong fast
I dont take folks with me who I dont think have the skill level. If youre so green, go run some easy trais till you turn blue, then black etc
If you have never wheeled a rover I am not sure I am gonna take you up and down say...Cliffhanger, while its an easy trail, its one where experience and knowing your rig counts or a day of fun can turn wrong fast
Hey Rover Mac. I actually have photos of you on that trail. Only P38 I've seen make it through "The Squeeze".
its almost like the spotter was to lazy to move so he made her drive around him. what a dumbass. the spotter is like hey its a pretty steep grade down hill so how about you drive up this embankment.
RoverDude said:
The first time I did Pinyon Mtn was with you John, fun trip. Still have the wheels I bought from you.
If I remember correctly the P38 is just narrower than the Disco II (or thats what i convinced myself when figuring out if it would fit through The Squeeze).
i concur. i wonder where they parked there R.V's. didnt see any tow bars. must have had the hidden mounts:yeah:KngTgr said:
Guys, I don't know where do you wheel, but don't think it is an easy trail, by any means. People roll their trucks on this very spot often - photos or videos don't do it proper justice.slowNstdy said: