Dictatorship
Is still a
Dictatorship
http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=210411&page=3
Is still a
Dictatorship
http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos.do?displayContent=210411&page=3
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ptschram
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Hey Ben, why don't you tell us what it's about so nobody has to sit and wait for that site to load?
There were a couple of vids but, the one that started playing was about the UN and their global unarmed vision that they have been trying to push for years now. It's pretty much about how the UN wants to remove guns from the people of the world unless you are a cop or military. It's just yet another group that wants to disarm people so that you can't defend yourself against criminals or government. They have been trying for years to get the USA to agree to take away our 2nd amend. rights. I'm sure Hillary and Obumya would let them. I didn't watch it all but, this is old news. It's been going on for a long time now.
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So, when Obama signs a law that allows concealed carry (with appropriate state permits) in National Parks, how is that taking away our 2nd Amendment rights?
That isn't taking away that right but it also isn't the same as being a proponent of the 2nd either. The Pres wanted to get the credit card holder's bill of rights through and as we all know, you sign the bill or you don't, the President doesn't get to take it apart as he wishes. The right to carry in the parks was an amendment inside that bill.apg said:
The point is that he's not exactly "anti-gun". He has in fact stated repeatedly that he supports the second amendment.
apg said:
He only signed it becuase of the credit cards. He already failed to do anything about it for the last year until now. The parks carry issue isn't some new thing either.
The Washington Post said:
As for where he really stands on the issue, only time will tell.
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apg said:
Watch what is attached to the bill, what infringement comes with it?
I wasn't sure, but I thought the video looked pretty old.
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junkyarddisco
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This is another thread that amuses me - and a recurring one - that Obama is gonna take away your guns. Even more ridiculous is the notion that the UN is somehow going to do the same, neatly merging the decades-old, John Birch society screed "get us out of the UN" with the right's perennial gun control paranoia. Other than being completely and utterly fabricated BS from the far-right, there is absolutely no evidence of that Obama has any desires on your guns: despite what the right says, he believes that the Second Amendment creates an individual right to keep and bear arms. But let's examine the NRA's 10 supposed reasons why it considered Obama to be anti-gun...and, no, I'm not making this up. (And no, I couldn't cut'n'paste, as the original has been pulled down.) The NRA said Obama would:
1) Ban the use of firearms for self defense.
2) Pass federal laws eliminating the right to carry.
3) Ban all handguns.
4) Close down 90% of gun shops.
5) Ban rifle ammo used for hunting and sport shooting.
6) Increase taxes on guns and ammo by 500%.
7) Restore voting rights for persons convicted of gun felonies.
8) Expand the Clinton-era ban on semi-auto weapons/magazines.
9) Mandate a federal firearms permit.
10) Appoint Supreme Court justices favorable to his views on the Second Amendment.
Riiiight....I'm not making this shit up...this is what the NRA published prior to the election...and none of it is anything but utter bullshit. Is any of it true? Of course not - it's simply laughable . But as Sarah Palin admonished the media when quitting her job as governor, "Y'all gotta stop makin' stuff up."
At the gun show last weekend, the promoters were advertising the event with the tag line "get your guns and ammo while you still can" which - predictably - brought out the sheeple in masses. It's not "creeping socialism" that will be the downfall of this country, but rather the ‘stupidification' of the nation. There's lots of evidence of that[./I]
As Ben likes to say "follow the money." Who benefits from all this "Obama's-gonna-take-your-guns" hype? The price of most firearms has risen dramatically in the last few years, but ammo has increased exponentially. (I've been reloading 5.56mm since ‘79 or so and have a couple of thousand rounds in all the many calibers I own; I quit when the price for reloaded 5.56 fell to about $.14 per round, less than my ‘cost' a few years back.) So, if you are ‘stocking up' now on over-priced ammo, just consider it a ‘sheeple tax' on gullibility.
1) Ban the use of firearms for self defense.
2) Pass federal laws eliminating the right to carry.
3) Ban all handguns.
4) Close down 90% of gun shops.
5) Ban rifle ammo used for hunting and sport shooting.
6) Increase taxes on guns and ammo by 500%.
7) Restore voting rights for persons convicted of gun felonies.
8) Expand the Clinton-era ban on semi-auto weapons/magazines.
9) Mandate a federal firearms permit.
10) Appoint Supreme Court justices favorable to his views on the Second Amendment.
Riiiight....I'm not making this shit up...this is what the NRA published prior to the election...and none of it is anything but utter bullshit. Is any of it true? Of course not - it's simply laughable . But as Sarah Palin admonished the media when quitting her job as governor, "Y'all gotta stop makin' stuff up."
At the gun show last weekend, the promoters were advertising the event with the tag line "get your guns and ammo while you still can" which - predictably - brought out the sheeple in masses. It's not "creeping socialism" that will be the downfall of this country, but rather the ‘stupidification' of the nation. There's lots of evidence of that[./I]
As Ben likes to say "follow the money." Who benefits from all this "Obama's-gonna-take-your-guns" hype? The price of most firearms has risen dramatically in the last few years, but ammo has increased exponentially. (I've been reloading 5.56mm since ‘79 or so and have a couple of thousand rounds in all the many calibers I own; I quit when the price for reloaded 5.56 fell to about $.14 per round, less than my ‘cost' a few years back.) So, if you are ‘stocking up' now on over-priced ammo, just consider it a ‘sheeple tax' on gullibility.
Me too! I just got some double chocolate Dove bars. This combines 2 of my loves, chocolate in double form, and ice cream in chocolate form!Blue said:
apg said:
Uh... I didn't say anything about Obama. But I think you are forgetting how close we came to having most of those predictions come true. If the Supreme Court had gone one more vote the other direction on the split decision on the Wash. D.C. gun ban, those predictions would have come true in one way or another.
In other words, I actually agree with what you are saying in the statement above, I'm not panicking. I only have one small pistol and a bolt action rifle, and only enough ammo to take out the first wave of zombies. I've never been to a gun show, and don't plan on going unless one happens to be in town when I have cash enough to buy that XD 40 I've been wanting.
I do, however, think we are on the fence. I think we are very close to teetering one way or the other, and that is why I post things like this -- to keep awareness up. There is no denying what the UN is trying to do. It isn't a matter of making up stories. We can guess all day long how Obama would handle one situation or another. I would guess that if he could, he would go with the party line, the UN line on the issue. But that's only a guess.