2008 Mid Atlantic Rally! Oct 2, 3, 4, 5
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I'm really digging the Dirty Girls! Can we have Dirty Girls at MAR?D Chapman said:
So Dan, how do you face the children of Grottoes knowing that there won't be a MAR when they grow up?
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HAHAHA. I face Harley, Emma, and Drake on a weekly basis. They're my best friend from Middle school on, kids.
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I certainly don't know any specifics of what ever insurance policy options ROAV may take for the MAR events but the policies we had for SCARR 08 did not require people to be members of the club to attend the event in order for us to be covered, only to technically have all attendees pre-registered.D Chapman said:
So there are insurance policy options out there for events that wont require the attendees to be members, but may not be an option available for that State/County etc. that the event is taking place in and the policies that DO require membership may be a heck of a lot more attractive to the people organizing the event from many different angles. Additionally, the club may simply take the position "Its our event, if you want to attend, you need to be a member or join when you register." which is certainly the prerogative of the club leadership.
OK, I think I see the miscommunication about the private land.
I am referring to the Pearl's Pond Site, not the current ORE site. Both are private land, yes, but at PP registrants were allowed to run at will on their own 24 hours a day. Chris, you said that access during SCARR is 'during operational hours'. What are those hours?
PP is a private property that does not provide for general access - ie you cannot go there any other time of the year and wheel. Barnwell Mountain is a private offroad park, it is set up for OHV access and you can go there throughout the year. SCARR utilizes the entire property, but it is still an OHV park. I'm certain that Texas Rovers also have to have their own insurance as, unfortunately, we live in a litigious society.
ROAV has found that it is much easier to obtain an insurance policy covering a motor vehicle event by having it a 'club member only' function. We have discussed rolling membership fees into the registration but always felt it better to be straightforward in the charges. Membership fees assist in the reclamation of PP before and after an event, but that is not their purpose. expenses are incurred no matter where an event is held.
To more directly answer rovercanus' question - as long as ROAV holds any event at Pearl's Pond (Summer Rally this year) club funds will need to be used to repair the property.
I'm up way too late again, but I hope this helps clarify my statement which I still stand behind - The MAR at Pearl's Pond was the only large event we found that offered 24 hour uninhibited access to private property not licensed as an OHV park. It may seem trivial, but there is a considerable difference when we are talking liability and insurance.
I am referring to the Pearl's Pond Site, not the current ORE site. Both are private land, yes, but at PP registrants were allowed to run at will on their own 24 hours a day. Chris, you said that access during SCARR is 'during operational hours'. What are those hours?
PP is a private property that does not provide for general access - ie you cannot go there any other time of the year and wheel. Barnwell Mountain is a private offroad park, it is set up for OHV access and you can go there throughout the year. SCARR utilizes the entire property, but it is still an OHV park. I'm certain that Texas Rovers also have to have their own insurance as, unfortunately, we live in a litigious society.
ROAV has found that it is much easier to obtain an insurance policy covering a motor vehicle event by having it a 'club member only' function. We have discussed rolling membership fees into the registration but always felt it better to be straightforward in the charges. Membership fees assist in the reclamation of PP before and after an event, but that is not their purpose. expenses are incurred no matter where an event is held.
To more directly answer rovercanus' question - as long as ROAV holds any event at Pearl's Pond (Summer Rally this year) club funds will need to be used to repair the property.
I'm up way too late again, but I hope this helps clarify my statement which I still stand behind - The MAR at Pearl's Pond was the only large event we found that offered 24 hour uninhibited access to private property not licensed as an OHV park. It may seem trivial, but there is a considerable difference when we are talking liability and insurance.
JohnK said:
Well, then I really feel unwelcome. Glad to know my membership is so important to the club, since I'm not even getting the 3 piddling postcards I'm owed.
Thanks for pointing out the one typo I've had in a long time. There are some pretty egregious spelling/grammatical errors on this board, and that you choose to target?
Alyssa said:
We may have an incorrect address for you, of you pm it to me I will make sure it is corrected.
JohnK said:
Don't take is personal Alyssa, he's always telling me there is 'an ass' in Manassas!
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lrmike - I'm the only one who drives a land rover
me - no, lots of people drive land rovers
lrmike - Well, I meant I was the only one who drives a green land rover
me - no mike, a lot of people have green land rovers
lrmike - yeah, but I'm the only one who has a green land rover that's titled in my name
me - I though you were the only one who drives a land rover
lrmaike - I stand by my statement.
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Well, seeing as we camped on site..........
Actually, they asked you to be off the trails by 10pm. There was one trail they asked you not to drive after dark because your lights would shine onto the main road and distract people - and two other very difficult trails they asked you not to drive at dark because of the high likelihood of rolling over. Weather people stood by that, I'm not willing to say. But it's not like the place shut down at 10pm. Our group, including 90% of the SCARR planners, camped at the rear of the property - the showers were at the front of the property over 2-miles away, off-road. Many showers, and shower shows, took place after 10pm.
We were camping on the property 24/7 for the entire event but trail runs are/were allowed from 6am-10pm. To expand on what Dan posted, night trail runs at Barnwell are capped off at 10pm because of the relationship/understanding with the park and its local residents who live around the properties borders. These operational hours we also needed to abide by for the event but using the parks main trail system for moving about from one end of the property to the other, visiting other camp sites, hitting the shower facilities, and access to and from the property for those staying in hotels or just to run into town and returning was allowed at anytime.
LOL... Ok so all you had to say was "MAR is the only event held in someones front yard"lrmike said:
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chrisvonc said:
I think you were in some of those pictures. But Steve Young has those from what I hear.
Ok.. I admit it.. there MAY BE some truth to that.slangel said:Yeah Cvc didn't miss it - he was just hopped up on blackberry moonshine - another reason not to eat the berries!
chrisvonc said:
I thought it was a backyard. with lots of dogs named rover.
hey, did you eat the berry too? LOL