1997 Range Rover 4.0 Polo Edition

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gagamac

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Quote:- "You think I should join the FBI with my super sleuth web skills?"

Yeh Jack, you are one smart dude, the more you write the more you prove that!


Regards

Mac
 

jimjet

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gagamac said:
JSQ,

I hope you don't treat everyone who disagrees with your point of view the same way.



Mac

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jim:patriot:
 
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D Chapman

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I find it amazing that people even repair the EAS. It's a piss poor design and everything about it sucks. It's like making a framing hammer out of cardboard; it's just not up to the job it has. Why keep repairing it when you can fix the problem for the life of the vehicle with springs?

It's one thing if you're building a "Collector Car" and trying to keep everything original. But, it's another thing to replace parts with inferior parts because you think you need to.

If the guy at Rover Ripoffvations want to be up front and honest with his customers, he would recommend the spring conversion over the EAS pile of shit. And, I think that is what JSQ is trying to say.
 

JSQ

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D Chapman said:
I find it amazing that people even repair the EAS. It's a piss poor design and everything about it sucks. It's like making a framing hammer out of cardboard; it's just not up to the job it has. Why keep repairing it when you can fix the problem for the life of the vehicle with springs?

It's one thing if you're building a "Collector Car" and trying to keep everything original. But, it's another thing to replace parts with inferior parts because you think you need to.

If the guy at Rover Ripoffvations want to be up front and honest with his customers, he would recommend the spring conversion over the EAS pile of shit. And, I think that is what JSQ is trying to say.

Precisely.

The amazing thing is that this isn't understood as common knowledge.

It's like breaking a stocker open diff and not replacing it with a LSD or locker. Even if you don't care about the traction, the stock diff is pitifully weak, so why wouldn't you replace it with a stronger carrier just to make it more reliable, never mind the performance gains?

All of this is hardly breaking news.
You have to be living a seriously hermit-like existence to have missed out on the endless truth about EAS threads.
 
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D Chapman

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skippy3k said:
Why, are you making your next order soon? If you need a couple of extra bucks to win the auction Dan, all you need to do is ask. I'm sure someone here can help you out.

;)

This just shows your ignorance. Actually, I find it quite common with people who live in your area.....

The point is, and I'm sure you caught on, is the parts you are buying to "fix" your truck are crap, I.E. Snake oil. It's like that spray-on hair for mens bald spots, anything that is made by Igea, or most stuff that can be ordered from DAP. It's crap. I just waiting to see it in the next issue of J.C. Whitney right next to the curb feelers or spray on mud. I would hope you would never buy any of these products, so why buy crap for a POS system like EAS?
 

Nomar

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Holy shnikies!!
Dan & Jack agree on something!
What's next?! You guys gonna have dinner together? (better bring the good cheese! ):applause:

oh yeah, EAS sucks
 
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D Chapman

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Nomar said:
Holy shnikies!!
Dan & Jack agree on something!
What's next?! You guys gonna have dinner together? (better bring the good cheese! ):applause:

oh yeah, EAS sucks

I've been waiting on a special occasion to break out these cheese singles!
 

skippy3k

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D Chapman said:
This just shows your ignorance. Actually, I find it quite common with people who live in your area.....

You should. You are quite a legend 'round these parts.

d Chapman said:
The point is, and I'm sure you caught on, is the parts you are buying to "fix" your truck are crap, I.E. Snake oil. It's like that spray-on hair for mens bald spots, anything that is made by Igea, or most stuff that can be ordered from DAP. It's crap. I just waiting to see it in the next issue of J.C. Whitney right next to the curb feelers or spray on mud. I would hope you would never buy any of these products, so why buy crap for a POS system like EAS?

No, the point is he is running a legitimate business and him being called a shyster is wrong. If the spray on mud people can make a buck, then good for them. It may be a dumb thing to buy, but they are a legit company. They aren't doing anything criminal. They sell mud that you spray on. Rover Renovations sells EAS parts. You know what you are getting, so he's not cheating you. Now, if he said "buy my stuff and you'll never have EAS problems again", well that's a different story. Or if he sold you a bicycle pump when you thought you were buying an EAS compressor. But he's not. He sells what he says he sells. He's not cheating anyone. It's not like he takes peoples money for a rack but never delivers.

Look, nowhere in my argument did I ever say EAS was better or just as good as coils. Heck, I've never even said what I run in my truck. I honestly don't care what people use for their suspension. If you want to shell out money for EAS, then go for it. If you want shell out money for coils, then super duper. But don't call a guy a shyster when he hasn't cheated anyone. If you think he sells dumb products to dumb people, then that's different than being a shyster.

I can't make my point any clearer than that. So if you want to tell me to flush my headgear or make comments about my manhood, go ahead. (By the way, the headgear comment did get me laughing.)

Scott
 

JSQ

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D Chapman said:
I've been waiting on a special occasion to break out these cheese singles!


Oh man,
my manchego and your kraft singles.
what a combo.


hey it's not like dan and I haven't agreed before.
say what you will about our differences in style preference, I for one, and I belive dan is the same way, know what is BS and what is the real deal. And when we read a bunch of BS, we are going to call people on it, regardless of whether or not the person who posted it is our web buddy.
 

draaronr

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JSQ said:
yeah I went pretty far out of my way.
his screen name is his website and it's in his profile.
real tough one there.

You think I should join the FBI with my super sleuth web skills?


:rofl:
 

FB111

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I've been watching this post and can say with certainty that very few things in life are black and white. And this is another example of just that. Just about everything is a compromise and there are instances where the EAS system provides the better compromise. In my situation 99% of the time my truck is my daily driver and driven on the street. Yet I still enjoy some light offroading. I also have ancient parents and inlaws and use the vehicle for towing or load it up significantly for vacationing. There is no way a lifted truck would work for me and for the little bit of offroading I do I like the ability of lifting my truck at the push of a button. No coiler offers the flexibility of an EAS truck. So for me the flexibility vs reliability issues weigh more favorably torwards the EAS system. As for reliability my 95 LWB had 145K and only needed the ocassional replacement of leaky springs. I never had a catastrophic failure or had to limp home. I recently bought P38a that has 197K and the EAS system on it runs even better than on my Classic.
 

nosivad_bor

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10. AIR SUSPENSION - The EAS is not bad. It's very simple to understand and can be fixed relatively easy and inexpensively. It has gotten a
very bad, and undeserved, reputation. A complete EAS Quick Troubleshooting Guide will be available soon. But this section on the main rangerovers.net site is MANDATORY reading. Pay special attention to the Symptoms and Diagnosis section as well as the Field
Recovery section. Not only will these sections educate you on the EAS prior to having a problem, but will help you recover AFTER a problem occurs.

Thanks,
Scott
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1995 Range Rover P38
Muddy and scratched but still running

seems this EAS system has a bad rep...

http://rangerovers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6299
 
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D Chapman

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Roverlady said:
Oooh, Dan is a legend now.....!!! :D

LOL, only if they really knew......:smilelol:

I hope I get to meet some of these goons at the National Rally.