INEOS Grenadier

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Apparently it's EE approved ™

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That is classic John.

On the mechanical side, of course, the Grenadier's suspension is no match for Range Rover/D110 suspension off pavement. I watched John's truck move over the same rocks I drove before, and the 110 never lifted a tire off the ground - which was not the case for the Grenadier.
I knew it for some time now - after noticing that I needed both diff locks in the Grenadier where my Classic sailed through with only a rear TrueTrac.
 
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bri

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That is classic John.

On the mechanical side, of course, the Grenadier's suspension is no match for Range Rover/D110 suspension off pavement. I watched John's truck move over the same rocks I drove before, and the 110 never lifted a tire off the ground - which was not the case for the Grenadier.
I knew it for some time now - after noticing that I needed both diff locks in the Grenadier where my Classic sailed through with only a rear TrueTrac.

Well, enough brake and that truetrac can get pretty close to a locker.

I didn't realize John used all those crazy "new age, valley girl" terms. ;-) He must have an underground forum where he talks casual. LOL.

FHS I don't even use "super", let alone "super awesome".

Grenadier is growing on me.
 

luckyjoe

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That is classic John.

On the mechanical side, of course, the Grenadier's suspension is no match for Range Rover/D110 suspension off pavement. I watched John's truck move over the same rocks I drove before, and the 110 never lifted a tire off the ground - which was not the case for the Grenadier.
I knew it for some time now - after noticing that I needed both diff locks in the Grenadier where my Classic sailed through with only a rear TrueTrac.
True for my D1 and RRC, but they didn’t have sway bars.
 

luckyjoe

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Sooner or later, the sway bars will come off the Grenadier. The way it takes the highway on-ramps without ever slightly leaning is excessive :)
That said, my LWB Classic has both sway bars in place. It still articulates better.
I agree, corners are unbelievable. I'll have to look at the sway bar connections.
 

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At our meet & greet, the engineer guy said to expect much less than the 17 mpg that was being tossed around the internet. He said it should be in the teens, but barely.
 

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I started logging the gas pump numbers at mile 870; the odometer is incredibly accurate, within 0.1-0.2%.
Here's the gas mileage record up to ~9000 miles yesterday:
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The total mileage in the log divided by the pump gallon numbers total is 14.0092 mpg.
Everything above 14mpg mark is country roads or dirt, everything at and below 14 mpg - freeway. Everything near 12.5 mpg - Interstate 15.
 

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How fast do you drive on the freeway?
The obvious joke would be "I take the Fifth," but the truth is that in most cases I am a ~90-percentile driver (excluding driving in carpool/express lane when the rest of the traffic is jammed).
The I-15 dips in that plot are in Utah (where speed limit is 80, and even the big rigs drive 5-10 over), and in California's Mojave desert. A sustained 90 mph in the Grenadier is perfectly possible, and with a folded baby crib on the roof rack, it sucks gas at a pace of ~11.5 mpg.