Need help identifying the cause of a fire

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junkyarddisco

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This happened weeks ago. I replaced the bit that caught fire, but never having identified the cause I'm currently driving around a little unnerved. Then the thought occurred - why not just throw out to you all some things I noticed prior to the fire, and maybe someone will have an idea.. here goes...

I'm getting on the freeway, right? Temperature spikes, shoots way up into the red in an instant - I pull to the side - notice smoke coming up from the gear selector. My reaction is to instantly pour a gallon of water onto the gear selector. Already on the phone with 911 emergency, I'm a bit shaken - you can laugh here - "It's on fire! No. No it's not. Maybe - um, no, maybe it's not. Can you just wait with me on the line for like a minute, and we'll see if it catches on fire?"

heh heh. Anyway. Fast forward a bit. It turns out, the only thing that had actually burned was the insulation on the gear selector cable. I have NO idea why. See photographs. I popped the new gear selector assembly in, and now everything seems fine.

My first guess was some wire or other, up against the gear selector cable, was grounded to something and eventually melted through the insulation and set it on fire. But I can't find ANYTHING in the vicinity. Maybe it burned up and disappeared altogether? Here's where you come in. Below are lists of anomalies I noticed before/after the fire (mind you, this car was bought from a junk yard for 1,500.00) -

BEFORE THE FIRE
* New (used) transmission just installed by a guy who's never worked on a l/r.
* "BRAKE" lamp is perpetually lit, but the parking brake is not engaged.
* The parking brake cannot even BE engaged. The button on the lever is stuck, somehow, and the lever just moves up and down.
* Something, somewhere, is continually draining the battery. If the car is parked for >24 hrs, the battery dies.
* VSS seems to be malfunctioning.

AFTER THE FIRE
* Cable for the P-brake has caught fire as well. Initially thought that this was an effect, but now am leaning more toward a potential cause?
* After installing the new gear selector assy, the P-brake now appears engaged. I clip the cable (you may laugh here too). P-brake is now disengaged and I am able to drive.
* "BRAKE" lamp has not made an appearance since.
* Now, nothing is draining the battery when the car is parked for several days.
* VSS is still (guessing) bad. Have not yet replaced it.
 
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junkyarddisco

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Le shed

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Oct 12, 2006
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Chesapeake Va
Make sure the ground strap from the engine to the chassis is connected. There have been previous cases where it was left disconnected and the gear cable started arcing.
Godd luck
Bill B
 
J

junkyarddisco

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hmm, interesting thought..

the exhaust conduit, of course, gets pretty untouchably hot, but I have no experience to gauge how hot is too hot. The obvious follow-up question - what would cause them to be too hot?

An interesting observation: on the flange that attaches the Y-pipe to the muffler, the bolts are not tightened to spec. They never have been. There's just been so much to fix on this car, it hasn't been a high priority.

Another interesting observation: the muffler itself appears to have "ballooned" slightly. If that makes sense. Perhaps, as an experiment, disconnect the muffler altogether and see if that corrects my performance issues (as opposed to the VSS)

more thoughts?
 
J

junkyarddisco

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Bill, will happily check the engine earth strap now. Where is it located?
 

Spike555

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Nov 25, 2007
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Grand Rapids MI
I have heard of this before, but never to the point of catching fire.
If you have a bad ground somewhere the parking brake cable will act as the ground and get really hot. I suppose if it gets hot enough it could catch fire.
I am betting that is why the battery went dead and that is why your brake light was always on. You had a short and it was grounding through the parking brake cable.
 

Le shed

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Oct 12, 2006
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Chesapeake Va
As far as I know you have the grounds near the battery. There is a ground on the passenger lower side of the block just infront of the starter motor.
There is one on the driver side cylinder head to the bulkhead, can't remember if there is one on the passenger cylinder head or not. If he took the starter motor out then the ground bolt would have been in the way so I would think he had to take it off. You can see it if you look up there. There is a wiring loom that comes from forward and goes behind the starter heat shield. Coming out of the same loom is a small pigtail, about 6" long x 3/4" wide with a blue covered clamp on the end. See if this is hanging down. I don't see any other ground straps on the transmission or transfer case on my 2000 DII.
Good luck
Bill B